Updates on the new DIRECTV TiVo

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by tivoupgrade, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. litzdog911

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    The $10 HD Programming fee is waived if you sign up for automatic paperless bill payment.

    If you already have two DirecTivos, then you should already be paying the $7/mo DVR Fee. That won't change if you add more DirecTivos, or replace your old Tivos.

    And I think the new $5/mo Tivo Fee covers as many new Tivos as you want, not per Tivo.
     
  2. myxpykalix

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    I am running a older series 2 upstairs and a series 1 downstairs and until recently i was running my own Sony SAT B55 recievers on both. I had to replace one reciever with a seperate direct tv reciever that WILL NOT let the tivo change its channel so it is practically USELESS unless you change or preset the channel to record. So i am not using a directtivo dvr but am paying an extra $5/month on that reciever that aint worth a damn.

    Do they understand that they are pricing themselves out of the market? :thumbsdown:
     
  3. drmanny3

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    We have been waiting for several years as well. I just ordered one for my parents. The cost was $214 delivered. There was no need to change our current programing. At first they wanted to have it installed. But I convinced them that we were already setup for HD DVRs. They said ok, and it is on its way. I understand that the regular remotes will also work with this unit. I wonder about the older peanut remotes. Do you think they will continue to work with the new Tivo HD unit?????
     
  4. litzdog911

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    No.
     
  5. eddyj

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    Has this been confirmed? I might be willing to pay $5/account, but not $5/TiVo
     
  6. drmanny3

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    Sorry for asking again. But the peanut remote that I have been using with the hr10-250 will not work with the new direct tv Tivo unit, is that correct?

    If this is so, can I order a second remote like the one that comes with the new Tivo unit?
    Thanks,
    Manny
     
  7. stevel

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    Someone over at DBStalk posted an exchange with a DirecTV CSR where it was stated that the $5 fee was per account, but most other posts have said it was per box. We shall see.

    As for the remote, the HR10 remote will not control the THR22. I expect you'll be able to order more remotes.
     
  8. myxpykalix

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    DRMANNY... do you live (or parents) live in one of the test markets? I live in Virginia, not far from Washington, DC test market and they said i couldn't order one......what is the difference? Just another stupid marketing gimmick that in the end loses customers for them...morons.

    This is what we get for being loyal customers....:eek::thumbsdown:
     
  9. litzdog911

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    Correct. The HR10-250 remote will not work with the new THR22 HD DirecTivo. You can probably order a second remote from DirecTV.
     
  10. fasTLane

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    What is the best route for a standalone Tivo? I need OTA with HD and something that closely emulates what I have in the HR10-250, remote codes and all.
     
  11. stevel

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    There is no one solution for you. The new DTiVo is closest, with the AM21 added, but the remote codes are different. If you insist on a standalone then there is nothing that will do all that and DirecTV.
     
  12. RickL66

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    Have been anxiously awaiting this news for 1.5 years since I came back to DTV on a pair of HR24's after TimeWarner rendered my pair of TivoHD's MRV feature useless. (Copy bit). In fact, the only reason I left DTV any my 10 year old DirecTivo back in 2007 was because I needed an HD DVR and I hated all of the others.


    I would love to have the Tivo interface, wish-lists and suggestions back but the lack of MRV and Kidzone just kill this for me.

    Why in the world would Tivo even put their name on this with such a lacking of feature parity with the HR's - it's as if DTV just wants it to fail.

    I'm bitter. (if you couldn't tell)
     
  14. stevel

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    I understand both sides of this. For me personally, I would not choose to buy the THR22 as I have no problem with the HR2x UI and I like the features. But then there are many, such as my wife, for whom the TiVo UI is the most important feature and everything else, including HD, is secondary. It is these people who are the audience for the THR22.

    Yes, in an ideal world we might have it all, all the features of the THR22 with the TiVo UI. We can argue forever as to whom is to "blame" for this not happening, but I don't see the point. We've known for years that the new TiVo box would not have anything close to feature parity with the HR2x series nor with the Series 3 and Premier models, but some chose to hope for something better.

    I will most likely be ordering a THR22 when I am able to. Not for myself, but for my wife who steadfastly sticks to the HR10 in all its SD glory, while I use the HR21 (the new HD UI is really nice and fast.) I expect there are enough others out there who value the TiVo UI to make the THR22 a modest success. It doesn't need to be much more.

    What I wonder about is what the future holds for TiVo UI DirecTV boxes. I have not yet heard anything encouraging here, such as closing the feature gap. It may be that the THR22 is it, while DirecTV moves on. We shall see.
     
  15. sloan

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    If I were releasing a new product, I would release the "must have features" first. Then, after some success, start opening up features.
    (( I have no idea if that is directv's plan. ))

    IMHO, it is better to have 3 features that work reliably, (and be missing 4 other features), then to have 7 features that "kinda" work. Yes, even if your competitor(s) have all 7 features. Reputation (on reliability) promotes long term success, not short term success.

    In the software and hardware development world, there is this constant tension between speed-of-release and reliability of what you release.
    There will always be critics of whatever choice is made to balance this tension.


    "They should have waited until it was tested properly."
    "Why did you release this thing before it was ready?"


    "Why did they DELAY the release date? They suck."


    I think (or secretly hope maybe) that the new directv/hd/tivo boxes will be competitive. I might be wrong.
    But I am eagerly waiting when my market opens up so I can try the new box out for myself.
     
  16. RickL66

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    One thing I don't get is, TiVo and DirecTV has reunited in 2008, and it took 3, almost 4 years to come up with this?
     
  17. sloan

    sloan New Member

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    I'm guessing you're not a software developer by profession.
     
  18. RickL66

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    You guessed wrong. I *am* a software developer developing in VS 2010, mainly in C#.
     
  19. litzdog911

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    I'm guessing that this isn't the only thing the Tivo software developers were working on. Plus, I heard that there was lengthy beta test phase due to software quality issues.
     
  20. Jerry_K

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    It is the UI for us. Best DVR UI in the whole market. The lack of MRV is just plain stupid and renders the units useless for us. We always have something recording on four tuners. If we cannot watch two of those tuner recordings in the other room it is useless. We never watch "Live TV". Each of our DirecTiVo units have well over 100 season passes on them. So a limit of 50 season passes is as useless as no MRV.
     

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