Updates on the new DIRECTV TiVo

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by tivoupgrade, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. Apr 15, 2010 #361 of 1039
    parzec

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    Didn't mean to get OT and hijack the thread....back to HD-DirecTV speculations.
     
  2. Apr 18, 2010 #362 of 1039
    bobbob20

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    I've been using my series 1 Sony SAT-T60 DirecTV Tivo DVR for years. This DTivo is what, 8 years old or more now? My own upgraded hard drive and old 2.5 OS just keeps kicking. But, I do want to upgrade to recordable HD since my TV is capable of HD.

    I do not like the fact of spending hundreds of dollars to "lease" a piece of equipment and still have to pay a monthly fee for the "lease". Give about 2 years of "leasing" and maybe I'd be able to purchase 2 or 3 units out-right instead like my Sony SAT-T60 had been.

    I do watch and enjoy stations like See Fee (SyFy), HGTV, Nick@Night, and others. What choices would I have if I didn't want DirecTV anymore? I do have a local Comcast here, which I receive internet currently. It's not that I don't like DirecTV anymore, but I'm looking for other options. I'd like to know all possible options for recording HD. Since I do like the See Fee channel, I'm guessing I'll need some form of cable or satellite. I'm planning on adding an OTA antenna outside, but that'll only give me the general local junk made for "the family" and "kids" watching.

    I've read many horror stories regarding DirecTV's HD DVRs. Freezing and locking every few days just doesn't sound appeasing. All the returns and exchanges either. Any thoughts on the HR23 or maybe the new HR24? You think HR24 would still suffer from locking up? I've been waiting for the new DirecTV Tivo based HD DVR (about 8 months now) in hopes it would solve the many problems people have had with DirecTV's brand of HD DVRs. But I'm skeptical that even Tivo could fix a problem with DirecTV's hardware (maybe that's why it's taking their joint effort so long to produce a usable product!?).

    Maybe a Tivo Premier using the Comcast HD service. But I thought I've read Comcast doesn't have as many HD channels as DirecTV? In my area I only get Verizon telephone and Comcast internet, no AT&T uverse junk.

    So maybe DirecTV's HR24? Or the Tivo Premier w/Comcast? Not sure if one would be more pricing than the other.
     
  3. Apr 18, 2010 #363 of 1039
    samo

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    The information you quoting is very dated. My HR22 hasn't locked up in almost 2 years. Latest lock-up poll on a new Premiere http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=446624
    shows that 90% of users experienced at least one lock-up and Premire has been out for less than a month. Even if DirecTiVo has been released, I would not get it for at least 6 month to let TiVo work the bugs out. For under $200 you can lease HR2X and pay $6.99 /month for the sub on all of your DVRs. The lease monthly fee is $5/month but you don't have to pay $5 mirror fee so effectively there are no additional monthly fees compare to the owned unit.
    But if you want to see extra pause ads and extra ads on interface you have to switch to Comcast and use TiVo.
     
  4. Apr 18, 2010 #364 of 1039
    shibby191

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    You may want to do the math on this one (which may still not work out for you).

    Lease HR2x - Typically free for DirecTivo upgraders, $99 is typical, $199 at most if you can't get any deals.
    Actually own/buy HR2x - $499

    Same monthly fee of $4.99 no matter if a box is leased or owned, same monthly fee you're paying on your T60. Oh, if it's your only receiver there is no monthly fee, even if leased.

    So to be frank, over 2 yr period you'll come out *way* ahead money wise by just leasing, especially if you get a deal, even if you could sell that owned one on eBay.

    So work the math out for yourself.

    And keep in mind this new DirecTivo HD unit will also be a leased unit. Everything from DirecTV is leased. Heck, my last SD DirecTivo I activated was leased because it was after the date they started leasing a few years ago.

    Depends on the network. All SyFy stuff is available for streaming on Hulu within a few days of airing. It's not in HD though. You'd need to check each program you want to see if it's streaming on Netflix, Hulu or Boxee.

    As noted by samo, that is way outdated info. The HR2x's are very stable now and have been for 2-3 years. Only it's first year of release were there a lot of problems like that. I almost never see any posts like this on any of the forums (Satguys, DBSTalk, etc.) anymore.
     
  5. Apr 18, 2010 #365 of 1039
    fasTLane

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    Thanks to every one for all the
    Updates on the new DIRECTV TiVo
    and all that that entails. :cool:
     
  6. Apr 18, 2010 #366 of 1039
    shibby191

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    LOL. Yea. Not much to talk about since the only new news we have gotten since 2008 has pretty much been "delayed another 6 months". :(
     
  7. Apr 18, 2010 #367 of 1039
    bobbob20

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    So with a Tivo unit and Comcast you'll get ads when you pause? That bites. You think this new Tivo unit will do the same?

    I love my 30 sec skip feature. Some opening credits are just about 30 seconds long. Anyone know if any of the other recorders use the 'skip back' feature when you stop a fast forward? Another feature I love on my DTivo.
     
  8. Apr 18, 2010 #368 of 1039
    CuriousMark

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    Careful, some people here really seriously dislike TiVo and like to share their views widely. They could provide a balanced view, but choose not to.

    Yes, the DVR displays a menu when you pause, a button you can press for more information about the show. It can also show another button for an ad. They will clear on their own in about 30 seconds. Some people are distressed that they can see this on the screen and others are not. If seeing a button you can press to take you to an advertisement disturbs you, then yes it bites. You can make it go away by pressing frame advance, or down arrow if you need to see more of the screen and you can set the progress bar quick clear code pause - down - play, then S-P-S-puase-S to make the progress bar, more info button, and possible advertisement button dissapear very quickly after you hit pause. The down side of using this code is that the progress bar clears quickly during fast forward in addition to during pause.

    The new Premiere TiVo DVR for cable is no different than the series 2, 3 or HD TiVo DVRs in this respect. It has the buttons.

    There are other places in the UI where buttons linked to advertisements also appear. Places you will see them are at the bottom of TiVo Central, at the bottom of program groups, and on the Would you like to delete this program screen at the end of a show. Some people find these easy to ignore, and others do not. Whether or not it will bother you is a personal decision. I just want you to have the facts up front so you can decide fairly.

    There has be zero information released as to whether the new DirecTV DVR with TiVo service will have these advertising related features/annoyances or not.

    I don't know if non-TiVo DVRs have the skip back feature or not, but I am sure others here who know can tell you.
     
  9. Apr 18, 2010 #369 of 1039
    stevel

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    The DirecTV DVRs have the "skip back" (autocorrect) feature.
     
  10. Apr 18, 2010 #370 of 1039
    shibby191

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    The DirecTV DVRs (HR20-24) have both 30 sec skip (or slip, your choice) and the skip back autocorrection features and have for at least a couple years now.
     
  11. Apr 18, 2010 #371 of 1039
    shibby191

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    Yep, nobody knows. If I had to make a WAG (wild as* guess) I would say that it will not have the Tivo style pause ads and such as DirecTV has their own annoying ads like in the guide. :)
     
  12. Apr 18, 2010 #372 of 1039
    CuriousMark

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    And just to be slightly obnoxious, I will take the other side just for fun and guess that the TiVo will have TiVo style ads. Then TiVo and DirecTV can compare notes on which ones work better and/or annoy customers the least.

    Shibby191, if you are right, I will owe you a cyber beer.
     
  13. Apr 19, 2010 #373 of 1039
    shibby191

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    LOL. I think you are just as likely to be correct. We all know that these companies want to push ads one way or another. :(
     
  14. Apr 19, 2010 #374 of 1039
    samo

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    There are no ads in a guide. There are lines in a guide grid that are shown in color graphics to distinguish them from the regular programming. These lines are for on-demand movies and sometimes sporting events. These line are shown in proper places - for example on-demand movies in 1080P are shown just before regular PPV guide. So instead of setting recording for PPV movie you can just choose to play it (they have been pre-recorded in reserved section of your hard drive - unlike TiVo DirecTV uses reserved section for PPV instead of ads)). Same with sporting events - they show in a sport section of the guide.
     
  15. Apr 19, 2010 #375 of 1039
    whitepelican

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    Wow. Now I've seen it all. Those aren't ads in the guide? Oh, right, those are just helpful notices to try to get you to buy some additional programming from DirecTV. And those helpful notices are just highlighted in a different color and taking up space that could've been used for more guide info. That's downright charitable of DirecTV to help you out like that.
     
  16. Apr 19, 2010 #376 of 1039
    stevel

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    TiVo displays ads for non-TV-show/movie products, DirecTV doesn't. I don't expect that to change with the new DTiVo (should I live so long to see it.)
     
  17. Apr 19, 2010 #377 of 1039
    Duke

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    Can't figure out how to connect the chips....? :confused:
     
  18. Apr 19, 2010 #378 of 1039
    Mr. Broflovski

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    Post of the year.
     
  19. Apr 19, 2010 #379 of 1039
    CuriousMark

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    That's interesting. I wonder if TiVo will support this, or something like it with the new DirecTV DVR with TiVo service. It makes a lot of sense. They can send it down when bandwidth is available and people can get instant response. I didn't know DirecTV did this. Thanks for explaining.

    Isn't there an over the top movie box that does something similar, caching the start of hundreds of movies?

    Here is a place where a search interface would be handy. you could find the stuff you want when you want without it taking up guide real estate. In the TiVo interface, the ads for the pre-recorded PPV or VOD item would sit in the discovery bar across the top of the HDUI. (oh yeah, no HDUI in the new box. Maybe that would come later)
     
  20. Apr 19, 2010 #380 of 1039
    HiDefGator

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    It isn't a question of bandwidth. The movies are being sent on a regular basis for live PPV viewing. They are just silently recording them for you if a tuner is available. No extra bandwidth required.
     

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