Update around the corner...

Discussion in 'VirginMedia TV with TiVo - UK' started by mikerr, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Oct 13, 2011 #1 of 176
    mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    From the VM forum:

    This week we have begun a limited pilot of our next TiVo software release.
    This new software includes many new improvements as well as key
    developments that will enable the launch of future products.
    We’ll be rolling it out to everyone well before Christmas.

    Here’s a sneak peek of what you can expect:

    • Spotify Support: We’ll support Spotify’s high quality streaming format,
      which will enable the Spotify Premium App on the TiVo platform.

    • Red Button: This update adds extra functionality necessary to support
      Red Button services developed by our channel partners, such as BBC, ITV,
      and Sky Sports

    • TiVo App support: We've enabled the connection of your TiVo box to iOS
      devices through your wireless router to use our fantastic TiVo app, which
      allows you to control the TiVo box, browse, search and manage recordings
      all from your iPad, iPhone or iPod Touch.

    • A new look for YouTube: We’ll support Google’s completely revamped
      YouTube app, which allows for a more relaxed viewing and browsing
      experience, and supports HD video!

    • Full BBC iPlayer integration: We’ve changed the way Catch-up TV through
      BBC iPlayer works. Every BBC iPlayer programme will now be available
      through Search & Browse, including much more HD content, and
      you’ll never use up a tuner for BBC iPlayer viewing.

    • Express Series Links: Create a Series Link with default settings at the
      click of a button.

    • Multi-tap text entry: Use the number keys on your remote like a mobile
      phone for text entry for typing into search.

    • Automatic Padding: We’ve had tremendous feedback from customers
      about clipped recordings, so we’ve installed a default level of padding
      for all recordings.

    • Improved Parental Controls: We’ve made some changes with PIN entry
      requirements to suit every household. In the new update, PIN challenges on
      pre-watershed playback of programmes in My Shows become optional.
      We’ve also added the ability to require PIN to access any application.

    • Skippable Music Playlists: Playlists on Music on Demand will be skippable
      by track

    • Live Pay-per-view Events: Live pay-per-view events become bookable
      with your remote control.

    • HD Upscaling: As promised on this forum, we’ve addressed the issue with
      our picture quality and this new update features better standard definition
      picture quality with improved upscaling.

    • Connection reliability: HDMI and SCART compatibility improved.

    • Info and Stop button functionality improved: You’ll be able to use the
      ‘info’ button in the TV programme guide and the mini guide, while the Stop
      button now works as you would expect.

    • Video Preview for every channel: Every channel will keep playing in the
      TV Guide window, including all the Sky channels.

    Network ports are open now in 15.2, so various remote apps work on iphone and android,
    unfortunately not streaming yet.
     
  2. Oct 13, 2011 #2 of 176
    Paul Webster

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    Largely as leaked a while ago - and very welcome.
     
  3. Oct 13, 2011 #3 of 176
    kandinsky

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    Better late than never.....

    :)
     
  4. Oct 13, 2011 #4 of 176
    mikerr

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    When the app is out, we should be able to play with the network port ;)

    It's a pilot in only 2 areas at the moment (Crawley and Cambridge) for 3500 customers updated with v15.2 today,
    and *whispers* it seems to have multi room streaming turned on !
     
  5. Oct 14, 2011 #5 of 176
    mikerr

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    First reports show:

    UI is much faster (some say 3-4x)
    Automatic padding is 1 min before, 4 mins after
     
  6. Oct 14, 2011 #6 of 176
    Zaichik

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    Hell on Earth
    The automatic padding thing has really annoyed me. A small number of very vocal people on the Virgin forums who are too lazy to add padding to the few (BBC) programmes that need it kick up a stink, so Virgin introduces mandatory padding and forces the rest of us to remove it from the majority of recordings where it's not needed to avoid clashes and wasted disc space! :mad:

    At least give us the option to turn it off! :mad:
     
  7. Oct 14, 2011 #7 of 176
    OzSat

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    I personally think that a global adding setting should be there - but user definable in the settings menu.

    I also find that programmes that tend to start early need 2 minutes to start.

    The One Show usually needs three to catch the intro.
     
  8. Oct 14, 2011 #8 of 176
    mikerr

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    Disk space isn't an issue nowadays, surely !
    and it won't cause clashes (clipping in settings should be turned on)

    Apparently it can be turned off on each season pass / recording as desired (its the default which has been changed).

    I agree this and the (bizarre) reminder issue a vocal minority are moaning about are forcing VM / TiVo to add these features ahead of others.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2011 #9 of 176
    Zaichik

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    And that's precisely my point. The vocal minority have moaned about a need to manually add it to recordings to avoid the end being cut off some of them when they over-run so now the rest of us have to manually remove it from the majority of recordings.

    Space can be an issue if you record lots of HD shows.

    And, as I understand it, clipping will only cut the padding from the lower priority show in the clash. This presumably means that if the later show is lower priority, you will lose the 4 minutes that the earlier show is automatically set to overlap by.
     
  10. Oct 14, 2011 #10 of 176
    cwaring

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    Not to mention the completely redundant 'reminder' :(

    I replied too soon :p


     
  11. Oct 14, 2011 #11 of 176
    OzSat

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    The lower priority show will be the one lowest down the series link manager - it could be the earlier programme.
     
  12. Oct 15, 2011 #12 of 176
    Johnny_boy

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    No mention of searching music on demand? This is a real pain just now, it can take 5-10 mins to get to a track
     
  13. Oct 18, 2011 #13 of 176
    mikerr

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  14. Oct 18, 2011 #14 of 176
    Tony Hoyle

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    Cool... so it doesn't work? Or don't you have two tivos
     
  15. Oct 22, 2011 #15 of 176
    davezatz

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    Do you also have Spotify and the updated YouTube app you could photograph and share? Much obliged.
     
  16. Oct 22, 2011 #16 of 176
    TIVO_YORK99

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    To get a Tivo in another room, would I have to pay an activation fee and installation fee?, or is it free with an additional £6.50 to pay per month (I'm on M+ TV)
     
  17. Oct 22, 2011 #17 of 176
    Major dude

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    I think it is £49.95 one off + £6.50 @month for us on M+. See the other thread on this.
     
  18. Oct 22, 2011 #18 of 176
    RichardJH

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    At the moment activation is free but £49.95 installation.
    So 2nd Tivo 500GB is one off £49.95. 1TB will cost an extra one off £49.95 for the box.
    I opted for the 500GB as my 2nd box because with the future streaming option the 2nd box won't need to record as much. My existing 1TB box is normally running at 85% full
     
  19. Oct 23, 2011 #19 of 176
    mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Spotify app isn't on there yet - v15.2 adds support for spotify streaming, so the app will just appear one day soon.
    TiVo apps can be added at any time without needing a software update.

    The youtube app seems to have been rolled back, but here it was:
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  20. Oct 24, 2011 #20 of 176
    Gostwycke

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    Does the update still require us to add padding?

    My Humax FreeSat box did not require any padding. The start and end times were transmitted with the program so it started and stopped recording at just the right places. This does not seem to be the case with Tivo.

    Are there any plans to change this? Are there technical reasons why Tivo cannot do the same?
     

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