Upcoming 2014 summer update speculation?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by eboydog, May 22, 2014.

  1. May 28, 2014 #21 of 114

    lgnad Pantless Mofo

    Feb 14, 2013


    Sorry this is so far off-topic, folks!

    hmmm, I use it pretty darn regularly, at least a couple/few times a week. Very occasionally have to re-launch it because of the silly error about tightening your cable and maybe once or twice its needed a reboot of either the mini or Roamio to get it running again over a year's time... other than that its been rock solid for me. Has literally never hung, or crashed out or stopped responding to remote commands, rebooted the whole Tivo, etc.

    Compared to how bad the netflix client worked for a while there, in my experience I'd call it world-class, other than how ugly it looks.

    Well, there was that time it was down a while ago when something on the back end died and it took them a couple of days to resuscitate whatever it was... cant fault the client for that one, tho.

    Is it better is some markets than others maybe? The Boston market was like 1st to get it since we had the mutant comcast/tivo Motorolla boxes and they used it to replace that...
  2. May 29, 2014 #22 of 114

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Doesn't do that here in the ATL, you just get the occasional error on playback because all the QAM channels are tied up. So all we do is keep hitting play until it works when that happens, and it always works eventually.

    You've got another issue with your area, the XOD app doesn't crash all the time everywhere.
  3. May 29, 2014 #23 of 114

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    It could be market based, it could also be because we are on a Sci Atlanta system, as opposed to most of Comcast with Moto (although Comcast will be pretty evenly split if the TWC merger goes through).

    Ours bombs out just about every time you go in, although about half the time it will start working after it bombs out.

    Netflix is a little different though, since you can just switch to one of the other gazillion devices that supports it, vs. VOD where you have to have a CableCard or MSO-provided device.

    Wow, I didn't realize that areas actually ran out of QAMs other than once in a blue moon. I've never heard of that actually happening. I've also probably never been on a really busy node.

    Not that I really care about XoD, as it's something that I didn't really want in the first place, I've just tested it a few times out of curiosity about TiVo supporting it.
  4. Jun 5, 2014 #24 of 114

    cart5250 New Member

    Apr 11, 2014
    Hello, spoke w/ Tech Support, recommended I signup w/ field trials... Is there anything to be gained in doing so ?

    Got link... gonna verify...

  5. Jun 5, 2014 #25 of 114

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2004


    If approved, the benefit is you gain early access to beta software before general release. It may or may not have new features or fix any issues you have. (Don't know about bug fixes, but the tea leaves suggest the summer update will have some new features.)

    Downside is the risk of bugs and instability, and you're expected to actively test and contribute to the process, beyond using your DVR normally.
  6. Jun 11, 2014 #26 of 114

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    We're about two weeks out from the 3-column view. Hopefully some streaming enhancements are also on the docket. Haven't heard anything on an Amazon update recently. :/
  7. Jun 11, 2014 #27 of 114

    dukenilnil New Member

    May 14, 2009
    +1 to the Android streaming support and Amazon Prime streaming
  8. Jun 11, 2014 #28 of 114

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    I'm at the point where the ONLY thing I care about any more is Android streaming support.

    The. Only. Thing.

  9. Jun 11, 2014 #29 of 114

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    The lack of Amazon Prime streaming is the biggest current problem. I'm sure a large number of TiVo owners are Amazon Prime members who would love to be able to use it through their TiVos. The current Amazon app is very disappointing without a streaming option and completely useless on the Mini.
  10. Jun 11, 2014 #30 of 114

    nooneuknow Well-Known Dismembered Member (Lurk Mode On)

    Feb 5, 2011
    Whitewater, WI
    Wow. So there IS at least one thing about TiVo that isn't to your liking... :eek:

    I'm more worried about what they'll break, or make worse, in usual fashion...

    Fixes are nice. New things are nice (sometimes). I just can't recall a release where they didn't break something, unless that release was an emergency release, to fix something they broke with what they had just released...

    I sure hope they fix all the CPU priority issues when transfers are in progress. That's one issue everybody who uses transfers is familiar with, and will not deny! Having to suffer it this long is ridiculous. That it was released with that issue in the first place, is unforgivable, in my book.
  11. Jun 12, 2014 #31 of 114

    NotNowChief Addicted to TiVo

    Mar 29, 2012
    New York...
    Still waiting almost 2 years for Android support.

    Amazon prime streaming would be nice too. But given TiVo's track record, I've learned to expect absolutely nothing.
  12. Jun 12, 2014 #32 of 114

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    LOL! Yeah, I do tend to be a fanboy.:rolleyes:

    I've been lucky, rarely has an update broken something. I guess with all the different systems out there, the weird combinations of cable cards, tuning adapters, coax, antenna, yada yada, plus the millions of units, that every change TiVo makes is going to disrupt something. And since for me, recording TV is the core function of a TiVo, I've been generally happy, as TiVo is without a doubt the premiere DVR on the market. Why else would we put up with all this shyte?;)

    But time marches on, and all these alternative feeds (streaming etc versus plain ol' cable) are becoming more important to TiVo's survival. Plus I just bought an Android tablet, and I want my d*mn streaming! It's all about me!:D

    But as many have said before me, my expectations are basically non-existent, so anything we get is a welcome surprise.
  13. Jun 12, 2014 #33 of 114
    JC Fedorczyk

    JC Fedorczyk New Member

    Oct 13, 2008
    How many more years will it take for them to get all of the UI to HD?
  14. Jun 12, 2014 #34 of 114

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Especially since with the Mini, there is no way to view the Amazon content.
  15. Jun 12, 2014 #35 of 114

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    Why would TiVo spend the money to make menus rarely used, except in setup or TiVo problems, go to HD ?? Most TiVo users, after setup, never will go the non HD menus.
  16. Jun 12, 2014 #36 of 114

    bikegeek Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Amesbury, MA
    I have always wondered why this is so important to some. The common screens are done, who cares about setup screens I rarely use.
  17. Jun 12, 2014 #37 of 114

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    For me it's so the experience is consistent. I go to these menus fairly often lately with all the channel additions and shuffling on FiOS. I would like for the preview window to always be present so that no matter what I am doing, I can see and hear what I was watching.

    Its very jarring switching to the SD menus. Plus, as I mentioned, I can't see and hear what I was watching.
  18. Jun 12, 2014 #38 of 114
    JC Fedorczyk

    JC Fedorczyk New Member

    Oct 13, 2008
    Exactly. Consistency is important from an overall quality standpoint and "unified" presentation. It's pure laziness on Tivo's part. Saying, "you only use it once" isn't really a valid answer. You'd never accept having an input on your tv only be capable of SD while everything else is HD.
  19. Jun 12, 2014 #39 of 114

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    You do know there is a way, it just requires using the Tivo Apple IOS app which technically hasn't been determined to be a mistake or just a undocumented feature. I keep an older iPad touch next one of my Mini's for such that sole reason.

    Personally I feel Tivo needs to get better organized with a better long term goals set, it appears in the last few years they seem to have a difficult time completing one project before they move on to another.

    There is no valid reason to support part of Amazon video and not Prime, no reason the UI for the Mini and Roamio boxes don't match, no reason to release Stream for half of the mobile device users and more than anything, simple stability esp with the latest series 5, after five generations of TiVo's, rebooting and hdmi issues should have been solved years ago.

    I have been a Tivo fan for many years and always purchased lifetime service but this year after upgrading to the Roamio I have held off as I'm not nearly as confident of TiVo's future as I once was esp when they announced they were closing their hardware development department as downsizing is not always the sign of a strong organization and the only thing they have expanded is their monthly fees.
  20. Jun 13, 2014 #40 of 114

    telemark Active Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    I was concerned when I first heard that but when I realized it was just the hardware engineers it makes some sense. It's partially a statement that TV hardware is becoming more universal, standardized, and common.

    If they stayed around, some number of them would have been twiddling their thumbs if the next product generation is going to be cloud based.

    Losing their software engineers, I feel would be unhealthy though.

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