universal remote control

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by jar_uk1, May 14, 2004.

  1. Dunkwho

    Dunkwho New Member

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    :) Yup, thats exactly the thing I was thinking about ! :D Never actually tried it myself, I did have a 500 for a few weeks to try out but without the IRClone stuff I went for the 700 to get my macros working.
     
  2. koogydelbbog

    koogydelbbog New Member

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    is there any trick to teaching it? i'm just about to return one that refuses to work with the tivo (and my Nad amp) and thought i'd look on here for recommendations for a replacement and was surprised to hear other people had had success. i even turned the lights off whilst trying to program it 8)

    cheers
    andy
     
  3. johala_reewi

    johala_reewi New Member

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    My Philips Pronto works fine with Tivo. Not sure why you are having problems with yours. Is it the the On/Off button that isn't working? If so, you may have configured the Tivo remote to switch both the Tivo and TV off. This will cause the Pronto a problem when it tries to learn the remote button so the answer is to reconfigure the Tivo remote NOT to switch the TV off (just Tivo). You can then learn the button.
     
  4. koogydelbbog

    koogydelbbog New Member

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    it's not the Pronto, it's the, er, SBC RU865 (6-way, currently £30 from Argos. would be a nice universal remote if only i could get anything other than LEARN ERROR out of it)

    there is a helpline number (and, i've just noticed, it's a london number, not premium in any way) so i'll give that a go. but given that it doesn't work with my hifi amp either (ie i can't watch anything OR listen to anything) it may have to go back.

    cheers
    andy
     
  5. AMc

    AMc Active Member

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    I know it's not a Pronto... but one of the most common problems with 1st time Pronto users is that the learning eye is at the bottom of the remote not the top as it is with many learning remotes. means people spend ages trying to learn codes by putting the remotes head to head when they need to be head to tail (if you get me) - could be a general Philips thing?
     
  6. koogydelbbog

    koogydelbbog New Member

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    ah, ok.

    nope, the RU865 is a head-to-head job, there's even a little picture, one of only two in the entire manual, showing how it's meant to be done.

    it also has a SEARCH facility where it cycles through all the codes it knows for that type of device and tries each one. was kinda fun watching everything in the hifi stack switch either on or off in sequence... everything except the tivo and the amp...
     
  7. kwazemowdoe

    kwazemowdoe New Member

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    Has anyone used any of the OneForAll products with Tivo with any success?
     
  8. koogydelbbog

    koogydelbbog New Member

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    I swapped the above Philips for a One-For-All 6 and it seems fine so far. I haven't downloaded the custom TiVo settings from their customer services and i think any trouble i'm having (it's stopped learning keys) is due to reaching the limit (25) that it talks about in the manual.

    The one thing i don't like is the size (and weight) of the thing - makes you appreciate the ergonomics of the tivo remote all the more.

    The other thing i don't like is the lack of buttons - am having trouble finding buttons for aux and vcr passthrough and 'select'.

    (can't seem to map the cd player volume buttons to amp volume buttons either - the amp section of the remote uses exactly 2 buttons (up, down) and both of those are free on the cd player section but it doesn't seem to want to know)
     
  9. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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  10. Anndra

    Anndra New Member

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    scgf and Automan - I've used a Harmony for well over a year now. Once it gets you used to the way it works it's fantastic, their e-mail support is very good too.
     
  11. childe

    childe Tivoer since 11/2000

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    I recently bought a Kameleon 6 but have already put it back on ebay. It works fine, but I can't cope with the lack of real buttons and the need to constantly switch screens to make the relevant buttons appear.

    Based on this and other threads it seems the MX-500 is the closest to what I want. However, having read the review at RemoteCentral, I have a concern.

    As a Tivoer I frequently use what I think are referred to as the transport buttons; play, pause, rw and ff. The review suggests the rw and ff buttons are not easy to use, due to being small and recessed into the central bevel.

    Can any users of the MX-500 comment on this?

    Another question: with my Tivo peanut, I can pick it up and know, simply from whether it feels balanced in my hand, where the main buttons are so I don't ever have to actually look at it. Is the MX-500 the same? Its shape does not look quite so ergonomic as the peanut, or even the Harmony remotes which seem to be the main competition. Specifically, I want to be able to pick it up and, without looking, be able to easily find and use the transport buttons. The other buttons are less important.

    Finally, it seems I could get several different Harmony models for around 50-75% of the price of the MX-500. Is it really worth the extra money? I don't think the "activity" concept of the Harmonys is really suited to my set up, but maybe they would be good enough.

    Help!

    Thanks
     
  12. Glesgie

    Glesgie New Member

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    Harmony gets my vote. The 655 works a treat and I hardly ever need to look at the
    buttons.
     
  13. DeadKenny

    DeadKenny New Member

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    The buttons aren't recessed on mine, unless they mean the central bevel is slightly raised in comparison to the other buttons. Anyway, I don't find it a problem or the buttons to be small, but then I haven't got especially large fingers. I find them ideally placed for use with my thumb.

    The MX-500 is definitely the best remote I've ever used. The only complaint is it uses 4x AAAs which is a slight problem with rechargeables as my charger only takes two AAAs at a time. Batteries last for ages though and you get plenty of warning when they run low so it's not much of an issue especially if you have a spare set.
     
  14. Maclynn

    Maclynn New Member

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    I would be grateful to know how you clear the TiVo remote as I can not teach the standby button to my my MX500 .
     
  15. childe

    childe Tivoer since 11/2000

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    OK - call me impetuous, call me inconsistent, I could not help myself. After posting the questions above this morning I decided to read a bit more about the Harmony range, and found myself irresistably drawn to the 885 model. So much so that I went out and got one. So much for saving money, this is actually significantly more expensive than the MX-500.

    My reasoning is as follows:-

    - I decided the MX-500 looked a bit unwieldy
    - I decided the Harmony activity concept would actually be more user friendly for my other half
    - I was sold on the "better" looks and the colour screen.

    I favoured the 885 over the 688 due to larger, colour screen and the views that the 688's buttons were too cramped.

    Impressions so far (after 2 hours of ownership): very impressed with the basic set up and the ease of use. Still in the process of fine tuning. The buttons are reasonably satisfying with a distinct click. They are well placed, but definitely not as easy to use as the Tivo peanut - in my view that is the most perfectly designed remote I have ever used. If only it could control more devices. Definitely a vast improvement over the Kameleon 6 I bought last week.

    Most importantly - the wife hated the Kameleon, but so far she seems happy with this...
     
  16. iankb

    iankb New Member

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    Try programming it for device 0000, and then again with device 1000. It's a long time since I did it, but I think that's what I did.
     
  17. Maclynn

    Maclynn New Member

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    Thank you, I'll give it a try.
    Mke.
     
  18. Maclynn

    Maclynn New Member

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    It worked perfectly. Thank you for the help.
    Mike.
     

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