Ultimate Wireless Network

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by vlxjim, Dec 19, 2003.

  1. Mar 2, 2005 #221 of 606
    rog

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    Cool, thanks ashu. I have a (non-Super G) WRT54G with two antenna, but I can't figure out how to get the antenna off! I assumed they were non-removable, but your post makes me think otherwise. How do you get those things off? Just pull, or unscrew, or...

    Seems like such a silly question. :)
     
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  3. Mar 7, 2005 #223 of 606
    JohnMAD

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    Im starting a wireless network for my tivo and I was wondering how this setup would work and what else I might need with it

    Linksys 802.11G wireless router (WRT54G)

    Linksys 2.4 wireless G access point (WAP54G)

    Linksys 10/100 USB 2.0 network adapter (USB200M)
     
  4. Mar 7, 2005 #224 of 606
    ashu

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    Disclaimer - i'm not VERY familiar with linksys devices.

    But - from what little I have gleaned, I'd just buy two WRT54G (or the better but pricier WRT54GS), put the upgraded firmware on both (free or $20?) and WDS/Bridge them up. This way, future networked devices (extra TiVos, PS2 etc) at the same location won't require a switch behing the WAP54G as 4 ports are already available on that second WRT.

    Bear in mind that you're only eligible for 1 rebate per household, usually - if you plan to buy a rebate-based one! Consider buying from two places (including online).

    <edit> The Linksys USB200M is excellent- can't go wrong with it. If you're close to a store that carries it, consider the (physically stronger, otherwise no better) Netgear FA120 and the D-Link DUB-E100 as well. As I understand it - identical performance. The Linksys just looks a bit flimsy (not that any of my 3 has broken yet ;) )
     
  5. Mar 8, 2005 #225 of 606
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    Why did you buy the 200M rather than the 100M usb adapter? The linksys site is vague on the comparative performance. Your configuration looks like a good fit for me. Thanks for posting it.
     
  6. Mar 8, 2005 #226 of 606
    ashu

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    Me?

    USB 20M is USB 2.0, the 100 is USB 1.1. Simple choice, now that TiVos support USB 2.0 and ca take advantage of it (very noticeable speedups).
     
  7. Mar 9, 2005 #227 of 606
    spelldog

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    Will the Belkin Wireless-G Router with 4-Port Switch Model: F5D7230-4 work in in bridge mode, and if so, how difficult are they to configure? I am running a DLink B network now, with the dwl usb adapter. The G bridge will serve dual purpose, b/c I hope to be able to run cat5 to my laptop in the TV room (company machine, no wireless card) to connect to the internet. Will this work? The Belkins are $9.99 after rebate at BB.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2005 #228 of 606
    ashu

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    Yeah on all counts. Go for it. If your router box doesn't have teh WDS (Wireless Distrib. Syst - basically bridging) addendum in the manual, or as an add-on piece of paper, you can also find it online. My 3 routers - one had it incorp. into the manual, one had 3-4 loose sheets of paper, and one made no mention of it! Inconsistent packaging!

    <edit> Consider buying your second one from elsewhere, or have someone else buy it as a gift for you - the rebate is only valid one-per-household. Or use a different address/name etc. If that sounds unethical, consider this - rebates are unethical, and disallowing a 'good customer' who buys multiple items from claiming more than one rebate is MORE evil :rolleyes:
     
  9. Mar 9, 2005 #229 of 606
    jitster

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    Hey there,

    I have a very similar setup to the topic heading:
    I currently have a Linksys setup
    Wireless Router – WRT 54GS
    Wireless Gaming Adaptor: WGA54AG
    Compact USB 2.0 10/100 Network Adapter USB200M

    Due to the fact that I that Network Adapter, Tivo Cust. Service will not support it as they claim its a 'hack' - all I'm doing is changing the Ethernet to USB so that it can work... Upset about it being called a hack, but that's another issue.. They did suggest I come to this forum for help....

    I cant connect my Tivo to the internet. It used to work, then Tivo ver 7 software came along. Now its sporadic.

    I can connect a laptop computer to the gaming adapter, and can connect to the router. It is set up using Wep encryption and all that, and it works fine. When I attach the Tivo to the Adapter, I've not been successful. I'm getting "Warning, No DHCP Server found", and "Can't Reach Gateway". It worked momentarily yest, but then is again offline today...

    I've tried the following setup steps:
    1) Test Connection
    2) Connect to Tivo service Now
    3) Edit Phone - Network Settings:
     
  10. Mar 9, 2005 #230 of 606
    jitster

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    I set up the following:
    Obtain IP Address automatically
    No DHCP client as required

    On checking Network Conn - I get 'Warning NO DHCP Server found".
    MY router IS set up as a DHCP Server, and my desktop connects to it dynamically.

    I tried the static setting of the IP - fixed IP, Gateway, etc, and get the mesg: "Could Not connect to Gateway"...

    GRRR...

    Any suggestions would be useful...
     
  11. Mar 9, 2005 #231 of 606
    ashu

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    Your setup SHOULD work. Test the same USB200M adapter with the same game adapter with your PC. Check tos ee whether DHCP (or static) work there.

    Remmeber that the router will see both MAC IDs (the game adapter's and the USB200M's) and assign TWO DHCP IPs. You COULD try setting your game adapter to static (configure it when connected via ethernet to your PC's ethernet card), and then set the TiVo to use your router's IP as the DNS server and set the game adapter's IP as the Gateway. Or some permutation thereof. One of those worked for me when I used a similar (D-Link 802.11B) device.
     
  12. gentlecall

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    I dont have ver 7 yet since I have a Humax. I do have your wireless setup though. It works great for me. I leave my computer on 24/7 and once in a while TiVo says it cant find my server. I just restart my computer and it seems to connect again. OR sometimes I just click on TiVo "music and photos" link and then back-out and then click back to go in. (does that make sense?) I do that a couple of times and TiVo seems to find the server.
     
  13. Stormspace

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    Ashu. My son is using a game adapter with his playstation console and when reading over the directions for the linksys game adapter it said that the mac address of the connected device would pass through the adapter, thus the adapter has no MAC of it's own. Don't know how they do it, but when I checked on the router it was true, only one MAC and IP for that device.
     
  14. jitster

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    Ashu, Thanks for your insight... I tried several things - basically, I keep getting intermittent connectivity (like 1x every 3 weeks)... I am going to use the WGA54AG for my Xbox now (been paying for LIVE service but havent used it yet!), and I went to Tivo's Adapter link and bought a Netgear WG111 - its on sale this week @ STaples for $30; and it worked flawlessly...

    GentleCall- I know **exactly** what you mean - I do the same thing w/ the music and photos bit (going in/backing out)!
     
  15. ashu

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    Good to know that some adapters do that, Stormspace! Different implementations, I guess - I'm more familiar with my D-Link equipment.

    Too bad you gave up, jitster ... but the work-around is good too! Albeit at the cost of speed (G adapters aren't (yet) as fast as an ethernet-wireless bridge)
     
  16. peitsche

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    I read most of this thread and a few others but I will ask these basic questions anyway... :D

    1) does this ultimate wireless network work with the series 2 DirecTiVos?

    2) is it possible to transfer shows to a TiVo that is not hookep up to the dish (i.e., a DirecTiVo with a bad tuner?)


    again, I'm sorry if this has been answered before... ;)
     
  17. peitsche

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    oops, I just realized this is in the HMO and TiVoToGo forum, so please feel free to ignore my first question (and call me a moron)... :D
     
  18. ashu

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    This network lets devices be shielded from the wireless aspects. Anything that works with hardwired ethernet works with this. In response to your questions, a suitably modified (can't talk about it here) DirecTiVo COULD also benefit from this, if you make it capable of handling wired connections!

    In that case, part 2 also becomes moot - as long as your (Direc)TiVo is subvscribed, irrespective of a bad tuner, you should be able to do with it whetever you could before (which may NOT include transferring shows from DirecTiVos to StandAlone TiVos - but what do I know, I don't own any DTiVos)
     
  19. yakima2k

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    So I set up my Tivo and PS2 behind a D-link switch that's connected to a D-link wireless bridge for connection to my wireless router.

    The Tivo works perfectly with this setup. The problem I'm having behind the bridge is with the PS2. I don't understand it - it connects just fine through the bridge, but then after about 5 minutes of connection time I invariably lose my connection to whatever online server I'm connected to. BUT, if I connect the PS2 directly to the bridge, and bypass the switch, it works with no problems.

    Any networking gurus have any ideas on this? The only thing I can think is that with both the PS2 and the Tivo actively connected to the switch that the swtich somehow isn't directing the packets properly and that's why I'm losing the connection. Any ideas how to solve this so I can use both devices without having to constantly move wires around?
     
  20. ashu

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    Never used a game console, but I used to have a TiVo and 2 PCs behind a switch behind a bridge before - no problms. Ever. Not that that helps, just FYI ...

    Would it be a terrible thing to run a continuous ping (ping -t) to your PS2's IP address, just to keep-it-alive? Would that help, I wonder?

    Download some kind of application that monitors connectivity/loss via pings, and run it, while forcing TiVo connections simultaneously, as an experiemnt.

    Good luck!
     

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