Ultimate Wireless Network

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by vlxjim, Dec 19, 2003.

  1. yakima2k

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    Once I got a proper bridge setup the Tivo was able to get past the switch, bridge and connect with my router and obtain an auto-IP address.

    So, to conclude, my setup is this - Toshiba RS-TX20, Belkin F5D5050v USB/Ethernet adapter, D-link DSS5+ switch (with PS2 and Tivo connected), D-link G810 bridge, D-link DI-624 router.

    Thanks a lot for all your help, especially Ashu. Once I get TTG and Home Media setup I'll post some transfer rates.
     
  2. ejclaw

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    I have read entire thread, but I am very confused about the setup. I have three Tivo's that I want to use MRV with. I also have one wrt54gs that I am using as my gateway router, and three wrt54g. However, I am new to computers and do not understand how to configure the wrt54g so that they communicate with each other. I have tried to follow the instructions as posted, but am not able to get the system to work. Does anybody have any suggestions, or is there any place that anyone is aware of that can take me through it step by step.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ed.
     
  3. Jetholes1

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    Does it matter if you use D-Link or Linksys products? The D-Link G Router is much cheaper.

    Thanks.
     
  4. ashu

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    I don't see why it should matter. As long as the device/s you buy are capable of working together (bridging or client mode, as needed) - buy whichever works.

    It just so happens that families of devices from one manufacturer (same revision, chipsets etc) happent o work better with each other.
     
  5. ejclaw

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    I have finally setup my tivo network with the game adapter as specified in this thread. I previously tried with the wireless router (wrt54g) but was unable to create a network. The increase in speed is quite noticeable. I am presently using the DHCP with my Linksys router and having the linksys game adapter get the IP address automatically. My question is, how do you measure the signal strength of the game adapter if the IP address is gotten automatically. One post stated that you needed to go into the configuration setting, but I have not been able to log into the site.

    The purpose of finding out my signal strength is to see if I am running at optimal speed. If I am not, I may need a signal booster. But for now I am running in the dark. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
     
  6. ashu

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    As of now, I'm sure your TiVo/s certanly aren't maxing out your Wirelss G connection - at least based on most people's observations.

    At best, you would see faster transfer rates between PCs (one n either side - behind game adapter, and behnind router). If that is critical to you, or you have money to burn - sure - buy a signal booster :) Otherwise (for TiVos or PS2/XBOXes) *I* wouldn't bother.
     
  7. anazoal

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    I'm not sure that the WRT54G can act as a client using the default Linksys firmware*. Either way, I'd suggest going to Linksysinfo.org and searching the help forum.

    *I know you can load Sveasoft Satori 4 firmware on the WRT54G's and then set them to "client" mode. You can also set up the routers using WDS. Answers and help are available at linksysinfo.org
     
  8. Feb 1, 2005 #188 of 606
    ajlee7

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    Hi, I have two TiVo S2s. I have one of my TiVo hardwired connected via an ethernet USB200M adapter. If I connect the other TiVo via a USB200M and a WGA54G AP, should I be able to expereince a performance transfer increase to perhaps in real time speeds? I currently have the second TiVo connected to my wireless routner WRT54G via USB11 Linksys and the transfer speed is quite slow.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2005 #189 of 606
    ashu

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    Yes, no reason why you shouldn't (provided your network is well-configured, has good signal strength and low interference from neighbors' networks and your phones/microwave oven etc).

    Of course, ideally, your TiVo should be idle, or not actively recording a show (buffering seems less intensive) at the time, but still - Best quality realtime over G-based network - definitely achievable!
     
  10. Feb 2, 2005 #190 of 606
    tivoboyjr

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    I wanted to thank ashu and eibgrad for their earlier advice and report back that I did get my wireless G network set up and working well with my Tivos. The only thing I wasn't successful at was doing it dirt cheap like eibgrad did. As I mentioned earlier, I had a lot of problems with the D-Link and Belkin equipment.

    When I returned the Belkin equipment, I got a Linksys WRT54GS router to replace my Linksys B router. I'm using it with two Netgear WGE111 wireless G game adpaters and two Netgear FA120 USB ethernet adapters. For some reason, the Linksys routers work great for me and it's pretty dicey with the other brands.

    Just for kicks, I decided to hook up my Linksys WSB24 wireless B signal booster to my Linksys G router, and it seems to work, even though it is only supposed to work with the B router. My signal strength went up from the mid 80's to being at 100% most of the time, so I'm leaving it connected. My neighbors can probably sponge off of my internet connection if they want to.

    So I've got a pretty good system. It does, however, take a long time to transfer a show from one Tivo to another. It can take a few hours before I can even start watching the show being transferred, which is disappointing. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions for what I can do about that. Aside from that, it works great for sharing music and photos. After the problems I had, it is nice just to have HMO up and running, and I'd recommend this to anyone who's had problems using the Tivo-recommend wireless adapters. We just had twins, and suddenly being able to see those pictures on our TVs is very important!
     
  11. Feb 2, 2005 #191 of 606
    ashu

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    Quick points ...

    - Congrats on the twins :)
    - Turn on WEP (or WPA - preferred!) - its technically *illegal* to run an unencrypted Wireless network. Not to mention your ISP will ding you for any napster/bittorrent or other 'unacceptable' activities etc!
    - HOURS OF WAIT TIME before you can start watching the show? I think your B signal enhancer/repeater may be messing things up, or your system/network is otherwise badly setup or facing interference issues (microwaves, 2.4G corldless phones) My setup transfers all but Best Quality FASTER than real time. Medium Q shows transfer about as fast as 1X FastForward! Your network performance is definitely lacking. Also - try changing channels!
     
  12. Feb 3, 2005 #192 of 606
    tivoboyjr

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    I changed the channel, then tried the "WPA Pre-Shared key" setting and couldn't get a connection on my notebook. I then changed to WEP and got a connection on my notebook, but can't get a connection on the Tivos now. Is there a secret to making this work? I had read that it was difficult to connect the Tivos using WEP or any type of security, so I didn't try it - given the luck I've had with everything else network-related. I appreciate the advice, though, as I would feel more secure if I could get this to work - and I didn't know I was doing anything illegal!

    After I get connected again, I'll try to transfer a show, and will disconnect the booster if I'm still having delays.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2005 #193 of 606
    eibgrad

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    I can't get WPA to work w/ bridging enabled either, had to resort to WEP. I then did a little research on WDS (Wireless Distribution System), which is the underlying technology that makes bridging possible. Seems WPA is NOT supported by WDS! The problem is that WPA uses dynamically generated and rotating keys, which is incompatible w/ the technology. Only static keys, such as that used by WEP, will work.

    If you want to read more about it, suggest the following:

    http://www.orinocowireless.com/support/techbulletins/TB-046.pdf

    Specifically, see page 6, "Drawbacks (current and/or temporarily)"

    eibgrad
     
  14. Feb 3, 2005 #194 of 606
    Stormspace

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    I haven't read the entire thread and apologize, but was wondering...is everyone in this thread using the USB port to connect wirelessly? If so, it is possible to get better speeds wirelessly by using an wireless ethernet bridge/game adapter that plugs directly into the RJ45 jack on the TiVo, thus bypassing the USB port entirely.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2005 #195 of 606
    ashu

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    The RJ45 jack is a phone modem, and not CAT5/ethernet compatible.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2005 #196 of 606
    rog

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    hi ashutoshsm,

    i wondering what information you are basing this statement on. i have never heard of any laws that ban unencrypted wireless networks. in fact, here in portland we have a very wide network of open wireless access points, which we call personal telco. personal telco is in fact a registered 501c3 non-profit. it's not against the law here, and in fact, the city participates to some degree:

    http://www.personaltelco.net/static/index.html

    not that it isn't illegal elsewhere, but this would be the first i've heard about it. please share any details you might have, i find the concept interesting (in a scary sort of way).

    thanks!
     
  17. Feb 3, 2005 #197 of 606
    shaft711

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    Actually, RJ-45 is the correct connector for CAT5/ethernet. Phone lines use RJ-11 adapters, and that is the connection on TiVO units. =)
     
  18. Feb 3, 2005 #198 of 606
    Stormspace

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    My Series 2 has both RJ45 and RJ11 jacks on it.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2005 #199 of 606
    ashu

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    OK - I may have been wrong on the legality aspect of open WEPs, but the 'provider' of the free-to-use WEP would bear responsibility to downloads and online activities (spam, credit card or other online fraud, **AA objectionable downloads etc)

    Also - yeah, RJ11 and RJ45 - oops. And what TiVo's have RJ45? I thought we only had J11 (the phone type)
     
  20. Feb 3, 2005 #200 of 606
    Stormspace

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    I'm an idiot. I looked online and unless my TiVo is extra special, I don't have a RJ45 jack on mine. I'll check my box when I get home.

    edit:
    Just in case anyone was wondering, allow me to confirm that yes indeed, I am an idiot. I neglected to examine the rear of my TiVo box to see if an RJ45 jack existed. I made an assumption based on my son's XBox. I guess in my deluded mind somewhere the black cases merged and confused me into thinking that the RJ45 jack was on my TiVo as well.

    At any rate, the wireless "G" game adapter I was mentioning earlier in this thread will work, but only with a USB-->ethernet adapter. The only real benefits to using a "G" game adapter with the USB ethernet adapter is that a)Once USB 2 drivers become available throughput will automatically increase to USB 2 standards, and b) Wireless network speeds will not degrade because a "B" client is on the network.

    I apologize for any confusion brought about by this, I am indeed an idiot. <arrghh!>
     

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