First let me say this is partly continued from here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=368740 However, the issue just got deeper. Where I thought originally the problem was only on my Toshiba/Tivo combo I had in my room and I had give up on the toshiba and decided to hook up a Tivo dual tuner that I had in another room now is doing the same thing the toshiba was doing as shown in the picture from the thread above. So, Just for kicks I hooked up the toshiba in the room I had the tivo dual tuner and guess what; NO LINES! So I took the dual tuner back to the room where it was to start with and also; NO LINES! Here's where it gets weird, my series 3 which is going back due to manufacturers defect is doing everything else but giving me these lines so don't know if its the TV because other devices also do not have these lines?