Tuning resolver (SDV dongle) not out until 1Q 2009!

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The "idiotic comment" is construing the frickin' absence of them saying something in their quarterly conference call to mean that the Tuning Resolver is going to be later than previously estimated. I get so tired of listening to people in this forum making predictions about the TR being late or not being produced at all based on nothing (in your case, literally nothing). This entire bogus thread is based on essentially nothing (a rumor being spread by some stupid CSR).

I have no doubt that there were working prototypes in existence before they issued the spec. The completed spec was out for IP search (to establish that it didn't cross any existing patents) for months before they could move it to "issued" status. I'm sure that work on implementing shippable products did not stop while they waited for that.

 

Guys....let's act like gentlemen here.

If you feel someone's spreading misinfo or being abusive, notify the mods about the post, and let them handle it.

 

Subtle changes in language and phrasing, including the droppng of previous phrasing altogether, are are indeed significant in forums such as earnings conference calls. Just because you are unaware of how to interpret such things doesn´t mean it is OK for you to disparage my interpretation of it.

Characterizing as doom and gloom a view that the thingy will show up after June is rediculous. No one of intelligence thought the thingy would come until late Q2 anyway when it was first announced.

Characterizing most posters on this forum as predictors of doom and gloom is outrageous. If you are frustrated, why don´t you go do somthing else for a few days and spare the general reader?

Your fantasy or hopes about some extremely unlikely thing that the FCC might do on the issue really just confuses the subject with disinformation, as does your mischaracterization of the "crowd´s" reaction.

Try to be productive when you come back.

 

I live in the White Rock Lake area of Dallas and noticed 10+ new HD channels showing up on my TivoHD guide. When I tried to tune to any of the new channels, all I got was "Searching for signal". I called the TWC office and when I told them I'm on cablecards, I got the usual response of "oooooooohhhh". The tech had no clue what the problem was and said a tech needed to come out to reconfigure the cablecards. Appointment is for today, but after reading threads like this one, I realize the problem is that the new channels are all SDV. This morning, things went from bad to worse when I turned on the Tivo and realized that only 2 of my HD Tier channels were still working and even those had no sound. I initially thought that the worst thing that would happen was not being able to get any new channels added to the lineup, but now it looks like they are yanking channels I have been getting perfectly since December. This is absolutely infuriating

 

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If you go check out the brighthouse thread you'll find that the higher ups at brighthouse haven't even agreed who will distribute the dongle yet. And they don't want to do it themselves.

 

again, the Tuner resolver or SDV dobgle is out of TiVo's hands. They had input into the design of it and the spec but the cable companies are making it and cablelabs is testing it.

All TiVo can say is there is progress but they can not pronunce timelines for other companies. There is nothing to read into what TiVo is saying.

Focus on the cbale companies fr any actual info on timeline for this or construe lack of same info in some way

 

Brighthouse did not want to do cable cards either. They are a smaller cable company that is not happy the big companies are setting the course.

 

Actually it is moto and SA making the "dongle". Not the cable co's. They will only rent- or distribute- the dongle after making it work with their individual system.

 

sure, to be specific, but they sell them to the cable companies. even Moto and SA would not think to say when they would be available to cable customers

 

Until it becomes available and you need a TiVo software update in order to use it!

 

Until it becomes available and you need a TiVo software update in order to use it!

 

LOL!

And TiVo really is far more on top of and familiar with the progress than what Zeo´s comment might lead one to conclude.

What should I do with lack of info from cable cos?

 

Familiar or not, it still isn't their place to comment on it in their earnings calls.

 

And we know that SA is making one because?

The only hardcore proof so far is the soletek (?) one that was shown in a Motorola housing.

I've yet to see ANY evidence that SA even has anything in progress.

 

Cableguy has a pretty good track record of providing accurate info and he is one of only a few cable employees that consistently monitor and resolve issues on this forum. If he says SA is making one, I believe him. For all we know, he may be under a NDA and cannot give specifics.

 

Not following your logic.

You are willing to put up with Directv's DVR so why wouldn't people be willing to put up with cable dvr's?

Personally I love tivo. But I think directv's ditching of tivo pretty much shows that "good enough" is all a dvr needs to be.

 

can anyone aim us to a link with Pony's comments?

 

point well taken. but the little i have seen of the D* DVR is better than what I remember my cable company interface looking like on their DVR. But you make a good point. 'Good enough' might be just that. I do think though that it is very hard to go backwards to anything once you have Tivo and get used to it. Hence, myself. I'm still on cable because of my tivo. But that time is growing short?

I also heard a rumor a while back, and I STRESS RUMOR, that since DTV has now sorta changed hands and Murdoch is not in (full?) control, that the new guy (malone?) might be interested in renewing the relationship with tivo. It's only a rumor, but i did hear it in a few places. I consider that bunk until something more definate comes out.

 

I have to say, my SA 8300HDC's interface is the worst I've ever experienced. I moved to Hawaii a couple of months ago and had Directv's HR20 and the interface was much better and better features.

I wish the tuning receiver becomes a reality so I can ditch the 8300HDC and get a TivoHD

 

I have never had a dvr that wasn't a tivo. Had S1 stand alones, s1 directivos, s2 directivos, a dvd-r tivo, hd directivo, and now S3's with cable. I got a "free" cable dvr for the first month while I was waiting on my cablecard installs but never bothered trying to figure it out. So I am far from an expert on cable dvr's.

But from what I understand there are all sorts of various brands and versions of the software for both the SA/cisco and Moto dvr's. So I dont know that generalizations one way or the other fit cable. If a particular headend is issuing "good enough" software to their dvr's then tivo likely is out of luck. Since I think the big cable providers have more dvr's deployed then tivo's total it would appear that plenty of cable subs think the cable dvr's are "good enough" for the relatively cheap price they pay.

So tivo really has an ugly uphill battle with selling hardware and monthly plans of their own. So roadblocks like SDV without a dongle are not helpfull at all for them.