Transferring from Roameo to new Bolt - problems, and how?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by pbug56, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. Jun 2, 2018 #41 of 112
    pbug56

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    On top of all the Hydra problems we've talked about, my Roameo Premiere picked up a new habit with Hydra; hitting LIVE a few times under certain circumstances crashes the TIVO. Another great improvement.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2018 #42 of 112
    Yog

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    Can a Tivo HD stream to a Bolt? Or is it too old?
     
  3. Jun 2, 2018 #43 of 112
    HerronScott

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    No only a Premiere or higher.

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  4. Jun 2, 2018 #44 of 112
    pbug56

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    And I believe that the only thing you can transfer from HD to Bolt are your season passes.
     
  5. Jun 6, 2018 #45 of 112
    JoeTaxpayer

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    What? I've had TiVos since series 2, and this is the first I've run into what can only be described as a major CF.
    The new interface / GUI is remarkably unfriendly. Who needs huge pictures? The one line descriptions on old GUI are fine.

    I can't transfer? A huge piece of Tivo's value to me is with that feature. I used one instead of a mini, with no cable card, as just a huge video drive. Why are they doing this?
     
  6. Jun 6, 2018 #46 of 112
    aaronwt

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    Apparently most people. Since most modern UIs do this.

    I know I easily prefer Hydra over the old HDUI. I can't even stand using the HDUI any more when I'm at my GFs house.
     
  7. Jun 6, 2018 #47 of 112
    Mikeguy

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    Well, they can be wrong . . . . ;) (Personally, I find the pics as nice eye candy, but only to the extent they don't impede real workability, including efficiency.)
     
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  8. Jun 6, 2018 #48 of 112
    TonyD79

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    I agree. And for the most part, the graphics have not slowed down Hydra or got in the way. Some of them are too big (tuner buffers) but not the problem I was afraid of when they first demoed Hydra.
     
  9. Jun 7, 2018 #49 of 112
    JoeTaxpayer

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    The images were not my main gripe. Not being able to move video to the bolt is making it close to useless compared to the other stack of tivos I own. (Of course, it's still a good product, it just is a step down from my series 4 TiVo's. And I need to keep at least one of those to move video)
    e.g. I don't own a DVD player, I rip a DVD to my Mac and move it to the Tivo to watch.
    It's remarkable to me that I can move video 'from' the Bolt to where I want it, just not "to".
     
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  10. Jun 17, 2018 #50 of 112
    JoeTaxpayer

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    An update - I withdraw 90% of my rant.
    Once I got online access back, the transfer works. I was able to choose a few shows that I planned to binge, and a few hours later about 50 HD shows were transferred.
    That's what happened. The bolt was fine, I never did a transfer at the bolt, I had always done bulk transfers from the online app.
     
  11. Jun 26, 2018 #51 of 112
    mchief

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  12. Jun 27, 2018 #52 of 112
    ej42137

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    If you are on Hydra, you have to initiate the transfer from TiVo Online. Or so I've been told.
     
  13. Jun 29, 2018 #53 of 112
    angelsix

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    I just got a new Bolt 3tb. Setting it up has been a PITA, only partly because the first cable card Xfinity gave me was defective. Now, finally, I have both boxes working. I don't want two working Tivo's, I just want my new Bolt working, including the files transferred from the Premiere. The transfer part looked so easy. Go to their "transfer files" page, click "all", and get the two boxes transferring. Because my 2Tb Premiere is 62% full, obviously that was going to take some time. It'd have been nice if the boxes could just talk to each other through my Ethernet LAN, but, OK, it was going to take a while. (I get 400+ mbps download, but only 10+ mbps upload). When you click "transfer" there's a pleasant message saying the files are being transferred and you can see the progress on the "To Do" list. But, no I couldn't seen anything about the transfers on the To Do list. So, back to Tivo tech support. The tech told me to transfer no more than 8-10 files at a time. If I click the "all" button to transfer, nothing gets transferred at all. I don't know how many files I have, but it's a lot. The system won't keep track for me of which files have been transferred, so I need to manually record the latest file transferred so I know which files to transfer next. I'm transferring oldest first. If I'd known it was going to be this difficult, I think I'd have waited, probably forever, to do the upgrade.

    One sorta bit of good news, the OnePasses seemed to transfer quickly & easily, in bulk. BUT, they got bulk-tweaked on transfer, so the ones on the BOLT tend to record all broadcasts of a show. Most shows in my area are getting simulcast in 3's, the low-def channel, the hi-def channel, and the new UHD channel that isn't really UHD. So I have to go into each OnePass and change it to only record on one channel. ... sigh


    (1) When I got to Xfinity's level 3 tech support, and tech mentioned to me that their protocol is never to imply that there might be anything wrong with the Tivo until 3 cable cards have been tried, unsuccessfully.
    (2) I was pleasantly surprised that Xfinity and Tivo tech support have no problem calling each other, so we have a 3-way call. I started by calling Xfinity, who said to call Tivo instead. Then Tivo said it seemed to be a cable card problem, and I felt myself falling into the Pit of Despair, where they would play customer ping pong with me forever. Imagine my surprise and delight when the Tivo rep cheerfully said "Hold on ... I'll call Xfinity and we'll have a conference call and get this sorted out.":)
     
  14. Jun 30, 2018 #54 of 112
    HerronScott

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    FYI, using TiVo online to transfer shows doesn't transfer the shows through your Internet connection. It just sets up local transfers between the TiVo's on your local network connection.

    Scott
     
  15. Jun 30, 2018 #55 of 112
    JoeKustra

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    Another FYI: on the Premiere, the network diagnostics have a Transfer History display. It shows the bit rate of the transfer.
     
  16. Jun 30, 2018 #56 of 112
    aaronwt

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    And the premiere is very sleepy with transfers? Bolts can see up to 500 Mbps transfer rates. While premieres are around a tenth of that.
     
  17. Jul 10, 2018 #57 of 112
    JoeTaxpayer

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    I meant that I can go to TiVo online and once I sign in, I can request the transfer. This is preferable to doing it at the box, as i can just choose multiple programs, click "transfer" and it happens.
     
  18. Aug 9, 2018 #58 of 112
    Gadfly

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    I am trying to transfer from my Roamio Pro to a new Bolt VOX I just got. Both running Hydra.
    Well, online transfers gives the impression that transfers have gone through successfully but they have not. During playback, most (almost all) of the transferred shows get stuck 10 minutes into the show as reported by somebody else on this thread. Good thing I did not delete the originals. This is even worse than telling you outright that you cannot transfer your shows...

    This sucks big time. I am seriously considering returning back my Bolt.

    And yes, after more than 10 years, this is going my last TIVO. This company does not deserve my loyalty.
     
  19. Aug 9, 2018 #59 of 112
    Phil_C

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    Same problem here. I transferred 1TB of files from Premiere XL4 to Bolt VOX (Hydra). All looked good until I tried to actually play the files. What a disaster! Almost every show freezes early on.

    I decided to upgrade because of the recent sale and because I was supposed to be able to transfer all of my unprotected shows to the new Bolt. Why else would I accept deactivating the XL4?

    If TiVo won't fix this, it follows that they should not deactivate my XL4. It no longer has a CableCARD, but at least I could hide it, keep it connected to my network, and stream everything to the Bolt.

    @TiVo_Ted: Is this possible? It seems to be the only solution if TiVo can't fix a simple file transfer. I am supposed to be able to keep my shows and play them on my new Bolt.
     
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  20. Aug 11, 2018 #60 of 112
    rpj22

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    Your post prompted me to experiment a bit. When copying from my Roamio to my new Bolt, everything an hour or shorter copied fine. Anything longer than an hour had the glitch at the ten minute mark you experienced (with the exception of a two hour, HD movie, in which the glitch appeared at twelve minutes.) When copying from my Premiere to the Bolt, I've copied two movies so far, and both are fine. Strange.
     

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