Transfer of Lifetime from Series 2 or Series 3 TiVo for $99, with purchase of new Bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Mikeguy, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. May 7, 2017 #1161 of 1601

    leiff Active Member

    Aug 24, 2005
    SF Bay area


    I thought I heard about orientation advantages with spinning hard drives
    Makes me consider buying a SSD drive then I can hang it on my wall.
  2. May 7, 2017 #1162 of 1601

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    If you review the article posted by @JoeKustra you'll see that there is NO orientation advantage, or disadvantage, so long as you're talking about 90-degree orientation changes. Wall mounting is fine, as-is, assuming your wall is vertical.
  3. May 7, 2017 #1163 of 1601

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    The Hard drive in the Bolt is horizontal. It isn't at an angle.

    Sent from my Galaxy S6 using Tapatalk
  4. May 7, 2017 #1164 of 1601

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    OK everyone who's giving up on either a Series 2 or Series 3/HD - if you had one of each, which would you surrender and why? I'm leaning towards decommissioning the Series 3/HD, and here's my logic: the Series 2 still does one thing that no other Tivo can do - control an external box. So if you were in Canada for example (as I may be one day), or anywhere a cable/satellite company still has set-top devices and DOESN'T supply cable cards, the Series 2 still has a function.
    Granted, the Series 2 is SD, but since everything the Series 3/HD does can be done by a Premiere 2-tuner, isn't the Series 2 the odd-box that at least may have a purpose down the road? My only worry would be that Tivo wakes up one day and just decides to S#$%-can all the Series 2's.
    Also, if a spare guest room had a playback-only device, the Series 3/HD could at least be loaded up with HD material, classic movies, that kind of thing, and would be somewhat future-proof as a HD source box (I have a fair number of films still around before Cox started flagging copy-once nonsense)
    Last edited: May 7, 2017
  5. May 7, 2017 #1165 of 1601

    c-collins Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Brick, NJ


    They have already deactivated the series 1's
    My guess is the Series 2 boxes will be shut down in the next two years. Series 3 has some more life in it since it's newer and HD. That said I wouldn't say its long term prospects are good maybe another 3-4 years.
  6. May 7, 2017 #1166 of 1601

    cwerdna Proud Tivolutionary

    Feb 22, 2001
    SF Bay Area, CA
    I think this became a non-issue AGES ago. Back in the days of MFM and RLL drives w/the ST-506 interface, there were many drives that didn't have a servo surface (side of a disc) nor embedded servo information. So, there was no really good way to tell how well the head was positioning above the track. Example would be the Seagate ST-225.

    I see a note at Hard Drive: SEAGATE: ST225 21MB 5.25"/HH MFM ST412
    I think the * was meant to a be a degree sign.

    Back in those days, when you specified cylinder, heads and sectors per track in the CMOS setup and they actually mapped to what the drive actually had, you could tell if the drive had a servo surface it had an odd # of heads. Odd # == one entire surface and head dedicated to servo information, to aid in positioning the rest of the mechanism.

    I think all drive makers have now gone w/embedded servo information and not wasting an entire surface.
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  7. May 7, 2017 #1167 of 1601

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    I'm not sure how this fits into things, but I'm getting the feeling that something may be up with the Series 2 boxes in the not-distant future; perhaps this will be for the Series 3 boxes as well. Perhaps the current deal is the first wave ahead of this; perhaps there will be future offers like last year's Series 1 offer.
  8. May 7, 2017 #1168 of 1601

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    that would be my only concern with the idea of keeping the Series 2 active - aka Tivo kills them before they offer another Lifetime Transfer program. So anyone who thinks they're clairvoyant, chime in - lol
  9. May 7, 2017 #1169 of 1601

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    Remember that the current offer is not the equivalent of last year's Series 1 "shut-down" offer. If TiVo were to EOL the Series 2 boxes, my guess--totally that--is that it would do something like the Series 1 offer for Series 2 lifetime owners--legally, I think it would have to.
  10. May 7, 2017 #1170 of 1601

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    what was the 'Series 1' offer?
  11. May 7, 2017 #1171 of 1601

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Regarding the, which to get rid of question between a Series 2, Series 3 & TiVo HD. As back ground I have one of each that still function and that I have call in every few months I use none of them. I would get rid of the Series 2 first. Back in the day I used my Series 2 with a Dish STB and another Series 2 with an OTA STB. When I got my HD TV the picture was pretty unacceptable quality wise from either unit and I ended up not watch content much from either. After that while the Series 3 was a slightly better unit than the TiVo HD, it has restriction when used with cable that make the TiVo HD a superior unit, so the Series 3 would go next.

    In the end I would think part of what TiVo would like to get out from under is dial in service. I used my Series 2 via a USB network adapter connection but my understanding is some people still use the built in modems. I wonder if TiVo would have to do anything if they just drop the dial in service.
  12. May 8, 2017 #1172 of 1601

    Worf Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    I could swear there was a THX test video for calibrating your system - I remember it since it was possible to accidentally delete it and you could use TiVoToGo to transfer it back. I know this forum has several people who accidentally did just that. But I can't seem to find it either.

    THX did suffer a bit of a hit when it was spun off and had to become a profit-making company instead of just a division of Lucasfilm back around the turn of the millennium. Since them it looks like it's been acquired by Creative Labs (the SoundBlaster folks) and now Razer Inc (the computer gaming company), who are really creating products to use the name.
  13. May 8, 2017 #1173 of 1601

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    That was on the Premiere model that was THX certified.


  14. May 8, 2017 #1174 of 1601

    skaggs AlbanyHDTV

    Feb 13, 2003
    Albany, NY
    I used a screen shot of the emailed order confirmation, which had the Bolt price and the $99 service transfer listed separately.

    Here is my timeline regarding the Discover Card price match:
    1. April 1, 2017: Ordered TiVo Bolt 500GB
    2. April 11, 2017: Called Discover Card customer service. Was later emailed the link to a website to file a claim electronically.
    3. April 12, 2017: Received TiVo Bolt 500GB via FedEx
    4. April 19, 2017: Submitted the completed form and screenshots of receipts. Claim instructions required sending in a copy of my Discover Card bill, so I waited until it was posted online and took a screen shot of the page that included the TiVo charge.
    5. May 1, 2017: Received email with notice of approval and that my claim was paid.
    6. May 6, 2017: Received paper check for $68.95 via US Mail
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  16. May 8, 2017 #1176 of 1601

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    Thanks - to be clear, my newer unit is a Tivo HD, although some call it a Series 3 I've found. I too use a USB network adapter for cat5 connection on the Series 2 - pain in the ass, if you bump the table the Tivo's on, there's a 50-50 chance the adapter falls out.
  17. May 8, 2017 #1177 of 1601

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2006
  18. May 8, 2017 #1178 of 1601

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    Presumably, there would be a notice as to the future. Of course, this is all speculation--who knows if anything ever would occur at all. ;)
  19. May 8, 2017 #1179 of 1601

    overFEDEXed Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Thank you for that detailed info.
    I've done the Discover PM many times, but my mind went blank on using the Tivo email.
  20. May 8, 2017 #1180 of 1601

    Tweak42 Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    We have a S2 and HD. No chance the S2 was ever going to be used with cable/sat, so it was the easy pick for transfer.

    I've repaired the power supply, upgraded the hard drive and added a usb wifi adapter on the HD, it's as spare OTA only.
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