Transfer of Lifetime from Series 2 or Series 3 TiVo for $99, with purchase of new Bolt

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  1. Apr 16, 2017 #761 of 1601
    sharownnn

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    I just received my Bolt and I took an active cable card out from my Premiere and had Comcast pair it to the Bolt. While I get the cable channels fine, I noticed that the time it takes when changing channels has increased. For example, I'll hit channel up and and a black screen will appear(for what I think is longer than norm) before the actual channel picture appears. It is definitely feels longer than what the Premiere was doing.

    Since I had Comcast on the phone while noticing this, I told them about it. They tried resetting the cable card and I still noticed it. They recommended contacting Tivo about it as it was determined that the signal was indeed coming through and the lag could be a Tivo issue; not Comcast issue.

    Is this normal? Anyone else experience this? All in my head?
     
  2. Apr 16, 2017 #762 of 1601
    jlb

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    Take a look at your video settings. When I got my TiVoHD years ago (still my primary for now) I set the video output to auto. I seemed to have some lag on channel changes. But since my TV is 720p, I changed the output to 720p fixed. Don't know what the settings options are on the Bolt but it's something to look into....


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  3. Apr 16, 2017 #763 of 1601
    aaronwt

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    Set the video output to one resolution to avoid this.

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  4. Apr 16, 2017 #764 of 1601
    sharownnn

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    Thank you both for the quick response. I tried setting it to the auto resolution (720p) only but I'm still seeing the lag.

    Interestingly, my bf's Roamio also has a black screen lag but his will play audio while having black screen. Mine will not have audio until the channel picture comes through
     
  5. Apr 17, 2017 #765 of 1601
    ej42137

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    You are correct, a careless error on my part.
     
  6. Apr 17, 2017 #766 of 1601
    tluxon

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    On another thread there's been some concern about the email we received just before the Bolt being delivered that says the Bolt has already connected. Being that between two HD's that I chose to transfer lifetime from there are 3TB of shows, I'm very interested in knowing if the 10-day countdown clock is already ticking on my unopened Bolts. Downloading the recordings on a 2TB TiVoHD takes approximately 13 days running 24/7.

    Has anybody had their lifetime transferred unit disabled yet? How many days was it after making your own connection (not TiVo's pre-delivery connection)?
     
  7. Apr 17, 2017 #767 of 1601
    timckelley

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    I can't say, because while hooking up the Bolt, I unplugged my S2, and when I plugged it back in, it wouldn't boot. All my attempts at resuscitation have failed. Fortunately there wasn't that much stuff on it, and miraculously my wife didn't have a cow at the loss. I think it's easier for her to accept the loss of content when she's knows it's not my fault.

    Anyway, shouldn't the old lifetimed units still work in the limited sense that you can play stuff that's on the My Shows/Now Playing menu, even after service is disconnected? In this way, people can take as much time as they want to watch their backlog. But I can see that if your plans were to archive it in a centralized repository, this countdown timer could be important.
     
  8. Apr 17, 2017 #768 of 1601
    George Cifranci

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    Yes they should. Both my series 1 and series 2 TiVos that haven't had service in quite some time are still able to play the content I recorded on them. I just tried them the other day in fact. I expect it to be the same with my Series 3. I should mention that The only shows recorded on my series 3 are from OTA. If you had cable service then some shows might not be viewable without the cable card do to Digital rights management maybe?



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  9. Apr 17, 2017 #769 of 1601
    tthompson

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    In case anybody wants to know I thought offer was over for $99 transfer of lifetime service but I called today and they gave it to me but I had to get bolt plus 3 tb drive. They said that was only model left for offer ok my me
     
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  10. Apr 17, 2017 #770 of 1601
    cwerdna

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    Besides the archiving, it also matters if the unit that will be deactivated is your primary and only DVR that you use everyday. In this case, it’s my TiVo HD.

    I shouldn’t have any other TiVos that are eligible for this offer. I sold my Series 2 SA in 2011 (which still shows up on my account page) and checking w/the buyer recently, he says it hasn’t been connected since 2011.
     
  11. Apr 17, 2017 #771 of 1601
    timckelley

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    So, even if it's your primary, the Bolt I assume will be the new primary, and the deactivated unit could still be left on until the backlog is watched.
     
  12. Apr 17, 2017 #772 of 1601
    Mikeguy

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    I specifically had called on this and was told, yes.

    Similarly, if you have a TiVo DVD model, the DVD player still will function (I didn't ask if one still could record DVD's). Transfers between boxes, I was told, will not work.
     
  13. Apr 17, 2017 #773 of 1601
    Mikeguy

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    (By the way, I might humbly suggest, download the relatively recent easier-to-use pyTivo setup/interface software and download all of your shows onto a PC/PC external hard drive, while waiting for your new box to arrive. The software is very easy to set up and use (really, just clicks away) and you can queue up what you want to archive and then walk away, letting pyTivo and your PC do their thing, even if it takes days. Really.

    Easier to use pyTivo)
     
  14. Apr 17, 2017 #774 of 1601
    timckelley

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    I've been using what I'm pretty sure is an older version that required me to install python first, and then pyTiVo, and the UI looks like a webpage with checkboxes next to each show that I want to download. I wonder if I should replace all that with your "easier to use" version.
     
  15. Apr 17, 2017 #775 of 1601
    Mikeguy

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    I'm not savvy enough to know. I think that the primary benefit of the new set-up/interface version is the ease of set-up as well as simple use. It's been awhile since I had pyTivo installed, and so I don't know if all the options under the earlier set-up/interface are available under the new and/or vice-versa. For basic downloading and uploading, however, everything under the new seems to be there and working.

    If what you have works, you might want to keep what you have until you've transferred what you need for now, and then move after, if you would like. (Sorry, I'm superstitious, and networking software always seems to go south on me when I need it most.)

    But, I'm sure the tech. folks here will have better answers.

    Btw, thank Dan203 for his development of the new installation/interface software. :)
     
  16. Apr 17, 2017 #776 of 1601
    Mikeguy

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    Did you call/chat/email TiVo to ask? ;)
     
  17. Apr 17, 2017 #777 of 1601
    Redoctobyr

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    My space usage is much lower, but at its current rate, the fuller of my S2s will take roughly 14 days to transfer the 445GB on it. So maybe it's OK that my Bolt may not be shipping for a little while yet.

    Sorry to hear that. Could it maybe be a failing power supply? One of my S2 supplies started failing, and it wouldn't boot. But it was marginal enough that swapping the supplies between my S2s (different styles of S2 units, one is a 240, the other is a 540) was enough to get them both working. If you had a spare, swapping a supply would be fairly easy, but not sure if there's much you could do to ease the load on the existing supply. If you could somehow power the S2s hard drive with another supply (spare computer PS?), that could reduce the load on the internal supply, perhaps you could get it running long enough to pull the recordings off it.
     
  18. Apr 17, 2017 #778 of 1601
    HerronScott

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    Oh that's interesting. The web page indicates the promotion is over. Good for you though! :)

    Scott
     
  19. Apr 17, 2017 #779 of 1601
    Mikeguy

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    Just because I'm tired of seeing this important issue being raised, here, without anyone checking and without a (definitive) answer being posted:

    Per my online chat with TiVo earlier this afternoon:

    Me (3:43:43 PM):. . . Would you please clarify: when does the 10-day deactivation period begin? From when I actually hook the new Bolt up in my home, or from when TiVo sends its email saying that the new Bolt has been connected (even though the purchaser has not yet actually received the new Bolt)? And, is there a limit as to how long one may delay setting the new Bolt up, without losing the 10-day deactivation period window? Days, weeks, even months?

    Thank you.
    Peter (3:46:41 PM):10 Days from the time of the first connection to the TiVo Service (During guided setup). As far as I have been made aware, there is not a limit to how long that can be delayed. Keeping in mind that if we get out past the 30 day money back guarantee period there will be no options for returning the device.
    Me (3:49:04 PM):Thank you for your information. And just to make sure that I understand, that's when I take the Bolt out and first run Guided Setup, and not starting from what TiVo does on its end to prepare the Bolt and ship it to me, correct?
    Peter (3:49:06 PM):Correct​

    The full chat session:
    :)
     
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  20. Apr 17, 2017 #780 of 1601
    jlb

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    Not to hijack but a quick question.....does your SPL list auto transfer over now? If so, from any? Like my TiVoHD? If so, I wouldn't even bother transferring my shows and just play them back from the HD.

    Ok back to our regularly scheduled programming. I was toying with trying for the transfer as I was having some problems the last week. But those now seem to have been due to my wifi adapter. I had a second one which seems to have solved the issues I was having. But, I may still consider trying to transfer over the summer, maybe


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