Torchwood Miracle Day - "The Gathering" - OAD 9/2/11 - *spoilers*

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  1. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    Yeah, that was a little bit too Anne Frank-y.

    And yet another homage/plagiarism from the Buffyverse: there's a hole in the world. Seems like people ought to know. :)
     
  2. Cainebj

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    Not to mention it made no sense that several episodes back Gwen went to all lengths to get her father back in the first place and then here just hands him over without a fight.
     
  3. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    Even in the superior COE, there was no huge, earth-wide upheaval with handing over kids to the aliens. Even at his best, RTD expects you to just accept the unacceptable.
     
  4. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Not "you" so much as everybody in the show. Which is a bit more unforgivable, in my eyes...it's one thing to expect the audience to suspend disbelief, but it makes it a lot harder for the audience when the characters in the show do not act remotely like human beings.

    There's a blogger called Slacktivist who for years has been doing an ongoing review of the Left Behind books which is blistering in its contempt, and one of his biggest complaints is that the books have absolutely no understanding of basic human nature. His biggest example is that a big chunk of the human race, including all the children, has vanished, and yet everybody just carries on normally. The staggering grief that would paralyze civilization if all the world's children suddenly disappeared isn't even hinted at. If you've ever wondered why bad writing is bad, these posts are a great source of insight into many of the ways.

    Obviously, Davies is a far, far superior writer to Lahaye and Jenkins, but this is one flaw that, in a smaller way, he shares with them. He sometimes just doesn't think through the consequences of his big ideas...he sometimes just doesn't seem to get how big his ideas really are.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    I would like the same cast back as well. I've been enjoying this. Although they could have cut it down to 7 or 8 episodes.
    I really enjoyed this episode.
     
  6. aaronwt

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    What exactly was she going to do? Start killing the police and then get herself, her family, and torchwood arrested? It would have made no sense for her to fight back. They showed what great lengths they went through to hide him. And that had been going on for two months. They were so hell bent on finding him because they broke him out of the camp.
    The whole world they live in has been flipped upside down, economies are crumbling etc, I don't think people would have much of a choice but to hand over their Cat1 family members unless they wanted to risk getting locked up or becoming a caetgory 1 themselves.
    It's a terrible world they live in now and each day it's getting worse and worse as more resources are consumed, economies go further in the crapper, contries becoming isolated, etc.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    So everyone would lie down and kill themselves? Of course the world would go on. Just look at what is going on in Africa. Sometimes all the children in a family can die , but the parents still go on. You have no choice but to go on unless you have a death wish. The Tsunami several years ago, entire families wiped out with only one survivor. The survivor continues. they don't crawl up in a ball and kill themselves.

    The entire history of the world has been filled with grief, yet people still go on. It would be no different if all the worlds children suddenly disappeared. Life would still go on. Because you really have no choice but to persevere.
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But people would be affected. Massively. In the Left Behind books, they're not.
     
  9. robojerk

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    I agree that if they just started burning people in ovens because it was too inconvenient to treat them there would be mass rioting in the streets, showing everyone being good little sheeple is massively uncharacteristic. I doubt even the soldiers would just be cool with their loved ones being burnt, governments would be collapsing as their citizens loose faith in their leadership.

    I think the plot worked in COE because we focused more on Jack and the team, rather than the rest of the world.
    In MD, we've spent so much time focusing on how the world is reacting to the fact no one is dying that we can't help but notice how the populations reaction to everything sinister going on seems so unrealistic.
     
  10. hapdrastic

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    So far, this is the only episode of this season that I can recall enjoying. I've hated this season, going so far as to swear off watching the next season unless I hear of it actually being good. I liked this episode, I'm hoping for a satisfying conclusion, but I'm not holding my breath.
     

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