Topfield / Toppy users - is it better than Tivo or a Media Centre?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by childe, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. ColinYounger

    ColinYounger It wasn't me.

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    Iankb 'Watches more TV' or is more picky about what is recorded\watched in limited time available?
     
  2. Pete77

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    Frequent recording clashes on the Freeview channels suggests to me a rather high level of actual program consumption.

    In all the time I have had my Tivo I have only infrequently been afflicted by the recording clashes problem, despite the Tivo's single tuner
     
  3. iankb

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    What a totally-ignorant assumption. :mad:

    In fact, with a total of 4 hours or more travelling to work each day, and long working hours, I get very little time to watch TV.

    What I do watch, is often running in the background while I am doing something else; such as sleeping. :)

    My profile of PVR usage ...

    • I often choose to record a complete series, watch half an episode a couple of months later, and delete the whole series as not worth watching.
    • I often fast-wind through recordings, just to watch the relevant bits.
    • I record the last programme or two of some documentary/news programmes, so that I can look at them if somebody tells me that there was anything interesting on one of them.
    • A significant part of my recordings are made between 8pm and 10pm, and while there may be no conflicts on some days, other days can see the terrestrial channels intentionally trying to compete when showing major productions.
    • And while a lot of programmes that other people watch may be repeated, a lot of what I watch is not.
    • I keep a large buffer of films that I can choose from, and one cannot usually depend on those getting repeated within a short timescale. A lot of those I find I've seen before, and I delete them immediately.
    • Twin tuners also allow me to watch consecutive programmes on different channels, with overlapping padding.
    Pete, you seem to have a very-narrow idea of how PVR's can be used.

    I use a PVR to keep a selected set of broadcasts, with the idea that I can then choose to watch what suits my current mood and time-window. I do not use it as a time-shifter, with the intention of watching all recordings at some time in the future.

    Although I can understand that my way of using a PVR may not be that typical, I think that I get more benefit out of a PVR than most.
     
  4. TCM2007

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    Snap, particularly on the record whole series then delete it when I finally watch one and find its rubbish.

    The two biggest clash generators of clashes for me are Newsnight (on a Keep 1 Sp)
    and The Daily Show (on a keep 1), although the latter is not a problem right now with the writer's strike.
     
  5. iankb

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    Basically, I see my PVR as a Personal Video-On-Demand Server, from which I can pick and choose what I want to watch, and not as a Personal Video Recorder in it's traditional sense.

    Luckily-enough, I don't have an addiction to a sport with an elongated ball that forces me to hand over money to Murdoch. ;)

    I've got over my personal addiction to new film releases that once made me fork-out my hard-earned cash for the occasional good film. Sky adding pin-entry to premiere films was far more effective and much cheaper than rehab. :D
     
  6. Pete77

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    Have you patented this ability to assimilate recorded programs while you have fallen sound asleep. I wouldn't have thought that was possible via any method short of implanting electrodes in the brain.

    Call me old fashioned but I find that when I fall asleep watching tv I have to rewind and watch again from exactly the moment where I fell asleep.

    Assuming of course the problem wasn't the boringness of the program itself - in which case pressing the delete button on the whole recording may be the better option.
     
  7. Pete77

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    It would never occure to me to record Newsnight.

    If I can't watch it live then I would rather watch the most up to date news on BBC News 24, CNN or whatever.

    I do quite often watch Newsnight live. To me watching recorded news amounts to heresy.

    I find the biggest problem with my Tivo is material that falls under the heading of "worthy of watching" and for which I can then never quite find the time or the moment to get round to it. Clearly I should make a rule with myself that if I haven't watched it in 30 days then out it goes rather than clogging up the drive as yet another long term item under Keep Until I Delete.
     
  8. TCM2007

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    Newsnight is an entirely different thing the 24 hour news channels. It's news analysis, not news. There's no comparison between Newsnight and News 24, let alone the others.

    If I watch it, it's usually within a few hours of broadcast - hence Keep only 1.
     
  9. dialanothernumb

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    Regarding the OT (not that I didn't enjoy much of the dialogue above) I have just purchased a Toppy, having decided that satellite wasn't for me. I love it. The TAPs I have installed are rock solid, I have networked the box via a linux-based "Slug" (great name!) nad have been converting .rec files to DVD in three steps, with subtitles thrown in -

    I hadn't realised how much I loved fiddling with add-ons, since I got rid of my on networked TiVo and the Toppy does satisfy that ahem... desire.

    Obviously I still hover round this community because of the great characters here, but the toppy.org.uk forums are very akin to TC, same sense of community and enthusiasm.

    Other things I like about the toppy: The PQ on the main channels is better than Mode 0 for me. The User interface out of the box is not brilliant vs the TiVo, but a TAP called MyStuff with skins, addresses that. As some others have remarked, it is a fantastically quiet box... one issue I had with both the TiVo and Sky +

    So, for me, the toppy was a good buy.

    Now I wonder, if Pete was willing, could he do a sweeping generalisation of me based on the above? It is awfully entertaining to read his previous work.
     
  10. Pete77

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    How about "you are clearly confining yourself to the world of SD picture quality that is the only format that Freeview currently offers and also the only format that your current Toppy can ever suport and so would have been much better off waiting for a BBC Freesat Toppy next year that would have given you all the great My Stuff Toppy features you have become used to as well as the capacity to record HD programs on a satellite PVR that does not require payment of a monthly sub to Sky". Or alternatively "if only you had taken the advice of other forum members and upgraded your Tivo to one or two Samsung HA250JC drives then you could have made your Tivo every bit as quiet as your Toppy whilst also having the benefit of Suggestions and a three week EPG".

    I'm pleased to find though that at least some other forum members do appear to recognise the entertainment value that is surely often inherent in my posts.;):p:D
     

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