Top Shot Season 2

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  1. Apr 6, 2011 #41 of 111
    Unbeliever

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    Air-Force, actually.

    And according to the History channel thread guys, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as an Air Force sniper.

    --Carlos V.
     
  2. Apr 6, 2011 #42 of 111
    snowjay

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    Oh, my bad. I thought they were all Marines now except Jamie (they mentioned him being the odd man out). I guess I need to pay more attention to the blurbs on the screen.

    He's not doing any military branch proud with that attitude.
     
  3. Apr 6, 2011 #43 of 111
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    Researching more into it, it is sorta true. There are no no "reach out and touch you" offensive snipers in the Air Force, more like defensive snipers. More like counter-snipers, and it's not their day job.

    They're basically security forces, and can pick up a sniper rifle as the situation dictates.

    --Carlos V.
     
  4. Apr 7, 2011 #44 of 111
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    Gunny mentioned that his service and security job prepared him for competing with the M82 - what the heck kind of security job would he have that prepares him for something like that?
     
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    He was a rifle instructor in the Marines so has wide familiarity with weapons. Not sure who he works for in the security job but his website has him hunting pirates...the Somalian kind. Don't agree with his politics..he's Glenn Beck Right, but he seems like a good guy on the show.
     
  6. Apr 7, 2011 #46 of 111
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    OK, that does make sense, then.

    I live near the Mall of America, but I never saw gun turrets there with .50 caliber guns! :D
     
  7. Apr 7, 2011 #47 of 111
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    One of the sentiments that is often echoed on the Top Shot forums by current and former military is that George's behavior is making other military service members look bad.

    There is one guy on there, a fellow USAF Security Services person, who said that George simply reinforced a notion that many within the USAF had of their police force, that they are buffoons who do that job because they didn't score high enough on the ASVAB to do anything else. I was not previously aware of this perception.

    Even worse, George is also making the USMC look bad by association, since many (including yourself) mistakenly assume he's a Marine like most of his bunkmates. An easy mistake to make given how the Marines follow his every lead. I know of a couple former Marines at work who would like to kick George's azz for that reason.
     
  8. Apr 7, 2011 #48 of 111
    RonDawg

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    There apparently are some doubts about George's "combat creds." Some of the posters, including current and former military, think George is inflating his resume to match his ego.

    Unlike Jamie, who posted everything he has done in his career after the episode where George and Ashley assumed he was an assassin, George refuses to say exactly what he has done beyond a few snippets here and there. His reason is that it is none of our business. Funny hearing that from a man whose beef with Jamie seems to stem from his perception of Jamie not being forthcoming enough about his military career.
     
  9. Apr 7, 2011 #49 of 111
    JoBeth66

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    I hated the elimination challenge rules. The whole first part of the competition was pointless, since all it did was make Brian 'safe'. They could've just shot a .22 at a regular target and whoever got closest was safe, the .50 cal was fun to watch, but it didn't make a difference where you ended up if you weren't 'first', you had just as much chance of going top elimination.

    I liked it MUCH better when the worst 2 performers went to elimination, rather than everyone voting on who to send. That took it from being about ability to being all about personality. WTF.
     
  10. Apr 7, 2011 #50 of 111
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    Nobody should have been present during the 50bmg competition. Watching the rounds hit left gave follow up shooters advantages. Especially with Colby saying way left, left, left, hit etc.

    George was the only one to watch where the first rounds hit and correctly adjust and hold his point of aim the same distance to the right of the target. Kudos for that.

    Lots of leftys shooting the M82. The few times I shot it felt like a punch on the nose since my nose is a few inches behind the ejection port. I like my lefty AR50 better. lol.

    Jay, letting the last target fall without squeezing off a shot. Arrrg.
     
  11. Apr 7, 2011 #51 of 111
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    I thought the same thing. Every single one of them except George put their first shot on the same spot. That should have told the later shooters something.
     
  12. Apr 7, 2011 #52 of 111
    JLucPicard

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    So Colby was calling the shots, but was he seeing them, or was he getting info from the spotter (behind the shooters).

    I thought down range might have been too far away to pick up the shots with the naked eye, but that could just be camera angles and such that made it look that way to me. If the other guys could actually see all of that, then the others should have been able to pick up some 'pointers' from the other's results.
     
  13. Apr 7, 2011 #53 of 111
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    My guess is the spotter was letting the contestant(s) know where they shot. Not sure if it was loud enough for those on the bench to hear or not. Colby's part was probably edited in later to make it look like he was calling it right after the shots were taken.
     
  14. Apr 7, 2011 #54 of 111
    vertigo235

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    But that contradicts what george said when he went to shoot. He specifically said he used the doping info from the prevous shooters and that they were shooting to the left.

    He knew this somehow.
     
  15. Apr 7, 2011 #55 of 111
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    Then the ones on the bench overheard the spotter, which wouldn't surprise me at all, but Colby was probably either edited in or repeating the spotter, just my guess.
     
  16. Apr 9, 2011 #56 of 111
    RonDawg

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    I got this from the History.com forums. Caleb from Season 1 interviews Jay Lim:

    http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/1/692/show_1692507.mp3

    Jay gives some interesting insight into the show's production. He said that besides Brian, and obviously Joe, nobody knew how they actually scored in the .50 cal shoot. I bet that George was surprised that his arch-enemy actually beat him by a second. Unfortunately Jay doesn't shed any more light into the George and Jamie show beyond what many have already guesses.

    As far as that is concerned, Jamie himself posted that he had "words" with another contestant at the house and that is what is fueling all the hate towards him. It wasn't George but certainly one of George's bunk buddies...I'm guessing Ashley.

    A funny note: Jay's interview was interrupted because he saw a cop checking out his NSX parked out front. Jay was phoning in the interview from home. Jay left the phone off-hook and carried it outside with him, and you can hear the cop tell Jay that one of his neighbors called to complain about the car. The cop can be heard saying "72 hours" which is the limit for parking a car on a public roadway in CA.
     
  17. Apr 9, 2011 #57 of 111
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    I htought I saw the camera cut to Colby on-range announcing the hit location during the contest.
     
  18. Apr 13, 2011 #58 of 111
    RonDawg

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    I don't think I've cheered for any episode as hard as I did this one. I loved the look of the faces of the others (particularly George) when Jaime outshot everybody else, and thus spoiled their plans to get rid of him :up:

    While George is the blowhard of Season 2, it appears that Ashley is the one with the real personality beef with Jaime. I'm glad he got eliminated. His refusal to even acknowledge Jaime after he lost just shows a total lack of class.

    I'm also glad that Chris R. finally recognized that Ashley as being a troublemaker and helped to send him to elimination. I'm just curious how George is going to act the remainder of the season now that his biggest cheerleaders/enablers are now gone.

    George needs to knock it off with saying the eliminations are "performance based." The only person who will believe that after last week's episode is himself.

    Did Brian (Gunny) always share a room with Jaime, or did he move in with him for some more elbow room (and to get out of that toxic environment)?
     
  19. Apr 13, 2011 #59 of 111
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    Too bad Ashley had it in for Jamie. As the last member of the red team, he could have partnered with Jamie and Joe to make the elimination selections fair this round.

    Have to agree with George on the F.A.L vs AR-15. For the purposes of the challenge, the recoil really made it harder along with the small platform.
     
  20. Apr 13, 2011 #60 of 111
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    Why even bother with the competition, since they had already decided who was going to go to elimination before they even GOT to the competition portion? So sad that Jaimie screwed it up for them by winning.

    If they do the damn personality crap for elimination next year, I'm done. The two worst performers should be in the elimination challenge. Not the ones that the 'cool kids' don't like.
     

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