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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by betts4, Oct 4, 2007.
first season i watched, but still a semi-gimmick thing I wish they didn't do.
sure.. But unless you have worked in those conditions regularly, it will take some getting used to. Tough to do with only a few days.
Not many restaurants are at 11,000+ feet MSL.
I understand the boiling point thing. Essentially, you are cooking things at a lower temperature, even if it appears you aren't. So, stuff takes longer to cook. Also, it affects baking. But there wasn't any of that (except Hung, and apparently his cake came out very nicely). I guess I don't understand the browning thing. Is it because the fire doesn't get as hot? (less O2 in the mix with the gas??)
really, I think there was some great dishes coming from Hung and Dale. The altitude didn't seem to really get to them (although from the blogs, I guess it did in a way for dale. He couldn't get a sear on the lamb, so he decided to poach it in duck fat. Sometimes challenges like that pay off. Dale had some good plan Bs up his sleeve in Aspen)
She was coming up so fast at the end it was a shame to see her stumble in the finale. Do you know her place in Dallas? (I can't remember the name, vaguely Japanese sounding).
ETA: Shinsei. Duh. Bravo website.
Have not been there. But I have been to the place were Tre works a couple of times
(need to dig up the pick of Peter000 with Tre in the background)
I was sorry to see Casey lose, but honestly, given that her cooking was so good throughout the show, I believe that the altitude effected HER, not just the cooking, but her.
They were at 12k feet. That's pretty high and can and does make people light headed and sleepy.
I don't think Aspen was a good location for a competition, particularly if you don't know how the contestants will react.
Didn't Hung make a flourless molten chocolate cake? If so, would the altitude affect it since it doesn't need to rise?
As for searing, perhaps because the moisture evaporates at a lower temperature at altitude, a crust doesn't form as nicely?
Hmmm... Stumbled across this interview with Casey at chow.com, she certainly didn't sound like a very gracious loser.
She's probably PO'ed at Bravo for editing the finale to make it look like she had a meltdown.
he made some sort of cake.. He didn't appear to have issues, though. The judges all seemed to like it.
It didn't look like she had a meltdown.
It did look like she overcooked her pork dish.
Although I enjoy the show the hyper editing to superimpose reaction shots is getting old - contrived and fake
I don't think that's fair. The Food & Wine Classic in Aspen is a real event, not a Bravo creation, and it was announced from the very beginning of the show that the finalists would be competing there. They had plenty of time to learn about altitude cooking and/or get some practice -- it's not like a new twist was suddenly presented to them at the last minute. I don't think that counts as a gimmick.
You can learn about altitude cooking, but unless you're spending time up there, you aren't certain how to adjust your cooking. They made some decisions spur of the moment on what to cook, and u nless you've planned ahead, you aren't certain how you want to do that at high altitude.
On top of that, most of them probably went back to work. I don't know what kind of stipend they were receiving while participating. They may have needed the cash influx to keep going.
Well what Agatha said, and they were in Aspen AND THEN on top of a mountain, so it was that much extra elevation!!
I don't think it was a full gimmick, but a somewhat gimmick.
She was considered one of the favorites yet none of her dishes were considered round winners as Dale won 2 of the rounds and Hung the other 2 rounds. And the one dish that they liked without reservations was made by Howie. This was confirmed at the judges table by her comments but then she claims in that Chow.com interview that Bravo edited the show to make it look that way. She also claims that Sara was responsible for Hung's chocolate cake even though we saw Hung had the recipe and did the piping into the rings.
Also in that interview, she talks a bit of trash about Hung and that being a Top Chef is "more than making plates". Finally she says that she should have won because she was more consistent throughout the season and she won more challenges than either one of them. So perhaps the "real" Casey is not quite as nice as Bravo tried to portray her to be.
I love this line, it's like the best record team in the regular season in sports losing in the final game(s) and saying "we should have won it all, we had the best record"
Competitions generally only award whoever makes it to the final competition and then wins that, not the best overall performance
Casey mentioned this during the interview as one of the reasons that she should have won. She said that Dale wasn't cooking, that he was waiting tables and that he took some time off to travel to Hawaii. Hung apparently took a month off and was in New York eating at various restaurants (though a blog comment indicated that this was because Guy Savoy was closed during this time). She was at work the next day at her "very successful" restaurant so I guess she meant that she had the least amount of time to prep for the challenge.
yet there were several really top notch dishes that came to the final table. A challenge, but not one that could not be overcome.
really, Casey just had a bad day. Which was too bad.
as far as Hung's cake goes, if you go back and watch, it's clear that Hung gives Sara a recipe for the cake and has her prepare it. Really, not all the challenging to do. he used her as a prep person the same way he used Rocco as one.
Casey did a good job of leveraging Howie, too. I got the impression that he is the one that sear the fois gras and during the judging, it was either Rocco or Todd that commented that it was cooked nicely.
I just don't get what the deal is hear with Casey. She never ever seemed to be the kind of person that would get this way.
I still think its crap that Tre wasnt there in the top 4.
Otherwise, I think Casey and Hung proved themselves to be the most consistently good, but Hung had better skill and efficiency.
I had a tough time getting into this season.
For the final episode, I played it and the first thing I see is the end of the finale with Hung hugging people and confetti.
So, there really wasn't much point in watching the whole episode.
Both him and Dale received a "Keep this on your menu and don't even try to improve it" comment on one of their respective dishes. That kind of tells you the level at which the final was played.
Both dishes did look great. (with my preference going to Dale's lamb. wow! )
I was happy Dale was able to give Hung a run for his money.