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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Cainebj, Nov 28, 2009.
Well, obviously neither of you can spell!
The wire definately contends for greatest show of the decade. But The Sopranos vastly overrated? Puhlease.
Oh, and the Sons of Anarchy is the best show on television and should be on that list somewhere around #5.
Deadwood should be there too.
bad and wrong.
The thing about The Sopranos, beyond it being a great series, is that I think it legitimized "off free TV" series. There have been series on Cable for years before them, but none ever got respect the way The Sopranos did. And with that, so many other cable channels started producing great series to compete with the networks, to the point that many of the best series on TV are on cable. Think there'd be a Rescue Me if there was no Sopranos? BTW, I'd add that show to my top 10. I had forgotten about it when I made my list. The types of edgy shows that can never be on network TV are now all over cable because of The Sopranos. I would say it has to be up there as one of the most influential TV series of all time, with shows like I Love Lucy (the prototype of the modern sitcom), The Tonight Show and others....
I've never seen it but it's way too soon for "Modern Family" to be on this list. Many would disagree but I would have to add the new "Battlestar Galactica" to the list.
It only lasted a brief moment in time, but Firefly was one of the best series of all time. It never caught on and many people have still never seen it.
Because it was never popular when it was on, it would be hard to put on the top of the list, but I can only imagine where it might have gone, had it continued.
The Hollywood Reported "cheated" by including shows that premiered in 1999 (West Wing).
Assume the rules were changed so you could include any show that aired during most of the decade. Would you include shows like NYPD Blue? ER? The Practice? Sex and the City?
I think NYPD Blue and ER aired their best episodes in the 90's. I don't think I'd include them.
ER definitely aired its best episodes in the 90s.
I will take it easy on you because you agree with me about everything else , but...
The "#1 show of the decade" had way way too many episodes in it that were quite simply the waste of an hour. Seriously, when you had to wait as long between seasons as we did, and then anticipate 9:00 pm on Sunday because AT ITS BEST it was a great show, there were many times when it ended that I would just say "WTF??" Sorry, that never happened with me on the Shield, and now on SoA.
Interesting point. Food for thought.
Oh yeah I forgot about Deadwood. Certainly one for consideration.
I tend to discount shows that follow the cliche paths. I think a show can be very good but it if is essentially following one of the common cliches of tv (doctor show, cop show) then it can't be considered the greatest or one of the greatest. It really has to fundamentally break new ground. I don't think the idea of being "gritty" or "real" is enough, and that is why I would always hesitate to talk about police-centric shows, for example, into the mix.
Now this is how a "Best of" List should be done. I defy anyone to find fault with this one.
1. The Wire
2. The Sopranos
3. Arrested Development
4. Freaks and Geeks
5. Mad Men
6. Breaking Bad
7. The Office (UK)
10. The Shield
I fail to find any fault with that list whatsoever.
I love seeing Freaks and Geeks in there. Loved that show, along with the original BBC Office.
I'm surprised that The West Wing isn't on there though. I probably would choose TWW over Lost, although I like both shows. I haven't seen enough of some of the other shows to know what else I might take off in favor of TWW.
West Wing IS on there...it's a Top 30 list, and WW is #30.
Which is a travesty, considering Battlestar Galactica is #12. Then again, BG being #12 is a travesty no matter where West Wing is.
And don't forget Dr. Melfi.
Considering I don't watch and / or I have no interest in 5 of the 10 shows, I find lots of fault
I've watched and liked 7 of the 10 shows on that list.
The great thing is, while it seems everyone complains about nothing being on TV, if you have a DVR and are willing to invest time in a few shows to get to know them, there really is alot of great TV out there. Compared to what was available in the 70's and 80's today's TV is so much better.
I would have gone crazy over a show like flashforward or lost when I was a teenager in the early 70s, instead, a late night monster movie rerun was often made my day.
Love Boat anyone?
That is the way it was in the work place in the 1960ies.
Oops. I didn't see that. Never got past 10.
ETA: OMG, Veronica Mars and Friday Night Lights both make the Top 20! Wow. That's my kind of list. Two of my favorite shows ever.
The first season of VM is so good, I have yet to find a person who has watched it and hasn't liked it, no matter their age or gender, and even if they thought it was going to be like "Nancy Drew." Hah. The marketing of that show did it no favors imho.
ETA part deux: I guess my criticism of that list is that The West Wing and Buffy are ranked too low, and some lesser shows are ranked higher. HIMYM, for example, while funny, sometimes, is nowhere near as groundbreaking or as consistently good as either TWW or BTVS. It's hard to compare comedies and dramas, but I'm not sure HIMYM should be on the list at all.
But the list as a whole is pretty good. I've seen a few episodes of Wonder Showzen, and that show is out there. But entertaining. Probably more so if you have ingested some illegal substances.