TiVoWeb Module : Manual Record

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  1. Oct 8, 2004 #101 of 287
    km

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    Yes, that does work. Thanks!
     
  2. Gudlyf

    Gudlyf New Member

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    I have a Toshiba DVD/Tivo unit that includes the Tivo Basic service. Since the service only allows me to record from the guide menu and not from Season Passes, anything I set to record with TivoWebPlus is considered a feature of Tivo+, and so my recorder rejects and never records it. I thought for sure this module would do the trick, but it's the same thing.

    Any ideas on how I can mimic setting up recordings in my Tivo Basic system via TivoWebPlus, BESIDES having to shell out the montly fee for the Plus service?

    Thanks!
     
  3. john1980

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    > Any ideas on how I can mimic setting up recordings in my
    > Tivo Basic system via TivoWebPlus, BESIDES having to shell
    > out the montly fee for the Plus service?

    Technically, yes I am sure that this can be done. I, however
    would be reluctant to do it.

    Like many of the TiVo modifications this module was intended
    to provide a means by which a Stand-alone (SA) TiVo could be
    used in a country that did not have a TiVo service. This is seen
    as a "grey area" by many people as it is not intended to reduce
    the revenue of TiVo (the company) who provide a great service
    in the countries where they operate.

    Developing modules or methods to get around a TiVo service
    charge would not be ethical. I also have no way of testing or
    developing such a modification.

    If you wished to have a look at this yourself, then you could
    start with removing the code related to the creation of the
    Season pass...
     
  4. Gotchaa

    Gotchaa New Member

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    Do these modules work with tivo web plus on D*
     
  5. john1980

    john1980 New Member

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    > Do these modules work with tivo web plus on D*

    I run both TivoWeb and TivoWebPlus on my systems. I am not sure what D* is? If this is a digital cable type system, then I am pretty sure it will.
     
  6. Gudlyf

    Gudlyf New Member

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    I'm not trying to get away with anything illegal, just trying to do what the Basic service allows me to (which is record shows only 3-days in advance). I'd just like to be able to set up a recording from work (or somewhere else) via the web interface, should I forget to set it up in time.
     
  7. john1980

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    > I'd just like to be able to set up a recording from work (or
    > somewhere else) via the web interface, should I forget to
    > set it up in time.

    There is probably a better module for this... It can be done under
    the "What's On" module (which comes with TivoWebPlus). I am
    not sure if this module works, but it does have two options (they
    are "Record" & "Get Season Pass").

    I have attached a version of manrec that does not create a Season
    Pass and does not populate the ProgramSource field for the ToDo
    Recording.
     

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  8. Gudlyf

    Gudlyf New Member

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    Thanks John! So far it seems to work. I'll keep you posted if I find out otherwise. Now I just wish I could go through the "Search" feature of webplus, select programs that way, and have them register as "manual" recordings.

    Incidently, I write a perl script that will take emails sent from my cellphone and set up recording based on short SMS messages. So for example a short SMS message of:

    record tit:survivor,cha:wbz,dat:101404,tim:2000,dur:60

    The script reads all that and just calls the web page. Some defaults are set in the script, so I don't have to enter the date or duration if they are today and an hour long (although I did show that above, just as an example). I can also leave out the title and it will just call it "Manual". That way even a message of:

    record cha:wbz,tim:2000

    would record the same thing, as long as I was sending it today.

    The only pain was that I had to create an array of the channel mappings, but that wasn't so bad. Anyway, it works!
     
  9. john1980

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    This update allows the user to select wether or not they would like a season pass created. In the past I have been a little annoyed by the fact that I sometimes record more than one consecutive show and give it a title of "ShowA/ShowB/ShowC" only to have it create a season pass by that same name... which is pointless.
     

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  10. Nov 3, 2004 #110 of 287
    HawkInOz

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    Sure would like to have half-hour recording options (1:30, 2:30, ...)

    Great tool. Thanks!

    Steve C.
     
  11. Nov 3, 2004 #111 of 287
    john1980

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    Umm... it does have a half-hour recording option. There is a drop down list for the starting hour and a drop down list for the starting time (in 5 minute increments). Then there is a data entry box for the duration of the recording.
     
  12. robr

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    i have a feature request. because of the crap ABC is pulling with starting and ending things at odd times (Lost 800-906, bachelor 901-1002), im having to set up a manual record for west wing to start at a specific minute. to do this i need to start at say 9:10 then set the option to start 4 minutes early. any chance of adding the start early option or setting a specific minute (which would be even better). thanks!
     
  13. john1980

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    That stuff is not really acceptable... you should complain to ABC (which will be ignored), but your best option may be to write to the producers of the particular shows who's start/end times are being played with and let them know that you are unable to watch their shows because of this tom-foolery!

    I have changed the "Start Minute" field from a drop-down select list, to a text entry field. You may also want to have a look at EndPadPlus if you are not already running it, as it helps pad shows... would not help this particular situation however.
     

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  14. robr

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    thanks very much, looks like it works fine to me :). lots of people are mailing the network about this one. it looks like they're just taking their largest hit shows and jamming in more commercials at the expense of us and their other shows with a smaller viewing audience.
     
  15. asantaga@yahoo.c

    asantaga@yahoo.c New Member

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    Just thought Id add I've just installed this module and think its wonderfull..

    Thanks

    I'll play with it a bit and try to contribute :)
     
  16. Dec 8, 2004 #116 of 287
    wpatters1229

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    I know you can set the quality of recording for season passes and in the To Do List. What I can't seem to find is how to change the recording quality when you press record while watching a show....It is always set at "Best". I would like to change that to Medium. I am recording everything in Medium, but when you press the record button is shows Best and then you have to go in and change the options and it then says part of the recording will be in "Best" and the rest in Medium.....I want it all in Medium and not have to go through all those settings everytime I press record. Any hacks to change that setting?
     
  17. Dec 8, 2004 #117 of 287
    john1980

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    This is not possible. The live buffer is always recorded at best and the TiVo does not have the hardware (or software) to convert the quality of a recording. You need to remember that there is only one encoder and one decoder inside the unit... The live buffer is always using the encoder... if you are viewing a program then you are using the decoder.

    To convert a recording you will need unrestricted access to both the decoder and encoder... technically this would be possible if you could disable the live buffer... but this would upset the TiVo application.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2004 #118 of 287
    wpatters1229

    wpatters1229 web Guy

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    I understand that but it then allows you to change the recording quality from that point on of the recorded program..i.e. You start viewing a program....5 minutes goes by and you decide to record it. What this now lets you do is save 5 minutes at Best quality and change the rest of the recording to Medium. What encoder is it using then? There must be some way to start out at Medium.
     
  19. Dec 9, 2004 #119 of 287
    john1980

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    I can give you a more technical answer if you wish, but to put it simply the live buffer will always record in "Best" quality... however if you wish you can use the TivoWeb Resource editor to alter "Best" quality so that it will not use as much disk space. In fact by altering the Resources you will be able to make all of the quality levels the same. I personally do not feel that this is a good solution as you will lower the quality of the picture when watching live TV.

    The encoder is a hardware chip (Philips SAA7120).

    It should be noted that you are never actually watching a "live feed". The Tivo is taking the input, encoding (compressing) it and storing it on the harddrive. When you are "watching" at the same time it is decoding (decompressing) it from the harddrive and displaying it. This is done to support the timeslip features (instant replay/rewind, etc). So the buffer is not actually a history of what you have been watching, but is in fact the "live feed"... this one of the reasons why when you change channel the live buffer resets.

    Hope this is not too vague... it's sometimes hard to clearly explain things... particularly when dealing with computer related issues
     
  20. Dec 9, 2004 #120 of 287
    Bigdog999

    Bigdog999 New Member

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    I'm not sure if it's related to manual record or otherwise, but my recordings are 1 hour off.
     

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