I am hearing a lot of this lately on other forums do you have any rebuttals for this kinda of post. C@P I wouldnt bother with a tivo. Digital tv guide over the air is free in almost all areas, this is the last year for analog tv broadcasts, and dvrs are cheap and easy. Bottom line, tivos days are doomed. The only thing keeping the company from going completely under is their partnership with Directv. Fwiw, I dont think tivo has yet to turn a profit, a company in the red since day 1. HBO went heads up with tivo, settled by working with tivo to implement a scheme where your recorded programs are installed with a time code tag and will self delete after 3 days or 7 days, whatever the program owner decides. I heard that the Simpsons (fox broadcast) will self delete in a few days, too. This is regardless of how you set up the record option to keep the program. When I get too much free time I want to play around with one of those German-made Dream Machine boxes, build my own tivo/sat receiever combo. Thanks in advance.