Advertisements A lot of fear doom and uncertainty in this thread. I can't remember a thread where there so many posts with made up facts, assumed facts and misrepresented facts. I didn't know tivo's constract with GraceNote ends on May 14. Probably a good date. Basically the end of the tv season Is there any doubt tivo is aware of the expiration date? Could Rovi have presented a proposal to tivo? Outlined how they would meet tivo's needs? Maybe working on beta software. Could Rovio license use of the program ID numbers? Cash? Exchange of IP rights? Rovio has thousands of patents. Could Rovio claim the numbers are in the public domain and wait to be sued? Not sure tivo would agree to that risk. An idiot posted a quote That point is with regards to TMS going out of business, with no notice. Tivo has months to prepare. If Tivo changes guide data, and software changes are required, will tivo update series 3 units? Earlier units. If they decide to EOL series 2 units will they change the software to allow manual recording?