TiVo's Contract with GraceNote (TMS) ends May 14th

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  1. tivoyahoo

    tivoyahoo New Member

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    I'm not up on the entire thread, but negotiating some extension time with grace wasn't an option? and leaving more overlap transition time.

    but if there plan was to deploy lots of resources to get fixes in quick order once it was rolled out en masse and they can pull it off, then great. but why not just be straight and tell us that instead of saying a ton of testing yielded only art as the big issue? At least there is a support article up now telling us more of the real story on what to expect. and fixes are getting made.
     
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Given that TiVo is being purchased by Gracenote's chief competitor and would be switching to the competitor's data, I don't think Gracenote wanted or had any incentive to offer an extension. While we don't know the specifics, I'd be shocked if TiVo didn't ask for an extension and I'd be equally shocked if Gracenote would agree to one under the circumstances.
     
  3. rainwater

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    The extension was built into the contract with Gracenote. Since they weren't negotiating to extend the contract, there was zero chance of another extension.
     
  4. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    LoL. (Inserts witty remark here)
     
  5. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    From TiVo's 10-Q SEC Filing on May 31st, 2016:
     
  6. tivoyahoo

    tivoyahoo New Member

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    that's my point.
     

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  7. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I'm not sure you're doing a very good job of making your point then. Are you mistakenly thinking that TiVo didn't try to get an extension?
     
  8. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    TiVo already signed the deal with Rovi. There was nothing to negotiate.
     
  9. tivoyahoo

    tivoyahoo New Member

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    thanks for that link. so Tivo knew the situation in May. Grace had leverage and either pay a steep price to buy more overlap time, or... time to get get cracking over the summer to have rovi data ready for fall and up to snuff. and they say they did a ton of testing. and they say "TiVo is upgrading the guide data". Ok, the proof is in the pudding. time to deliver on that "upgrade". Time will tell.

    I'm opting to buy some grace time instead of letting tivo push it to all my boxes in the early round test batch.
     
  10. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    No. World ended with renegade traffic signals.
     
  11. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    And anyone left was killed off by Skynet.
     
  12. JWhites

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    With as many issues people say there are, if they did a beta test they'd never get it out.
     
  13. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    In defense of Y2K hysteria, it never materialized as a catastrophe because it was taken seriously by government and industry to mitigate the problems it could cause.
     
  14. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    I was working for a company subcontracted by the FAA and I can tell you they took it very seriously and we spent many months working on it. Would planes have fallen out of the sky without the fixes? Probably not, but it could have been similar to the recent Delta outage, only worse.
     
  15. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    Right, and similar problems all across any industry with computers that would've made life hell for months and months.
     
  16. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    There was no grace time to buy. TiVo wasn't signing a new multiyear contract with Gracenote.
     
  17. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    John's...
    :confused: He's talking about preventing his TiVos from being converted for as long as possible.
     
  18. rainwater

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    Oops, I read that wrong. Although blocking an ip address seems going to the extreme. Btw, you need to do more than block the ip address used for the new guide data (it may not even be different). But, you would have to disable the daily connections completely. Otherwise, it will download the script to wipe your data.
     
  19. JWhites

    JWhites New Member

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    Got the message on the Mini, Premiere, and Roamio. Now the painful wait for it to go into effect...
     
  20. Space

    Space Active Member

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    I think the real pain comes after it goes in to effect...:D (hopefully not)
     

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