TiVo's Contract with GraceNote (TMS) ends May 14th

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  1. JWhites

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    Wait what? I've never heard of this before.
     
  2. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    Seems likely that's how it works, though since we already received the software update, it's likely that the new software is capable of connecting to both the GraceNote and RoVi serves and the script (or whatever mechanism TiVo is using) simple flips the "switch" when clearing out the guide and to list data.

    If that's the case, then in case anything goes wrong during the guide download process, simple clearing the guide and to do list again would reset things back to the state after the "script" runs. My guess is that the guide setup functionality is pretty robust though as that code has been around for a very long time, so it's unlikely anything short of a disk crash would really cause a problem.
     
  3. JoeKustra

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    Save the shift key. It's Gracenote and Rovi. :)
     
  4. andyf

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    Well, we've never had Rovi data before. :)
     
  5. JWhites

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    Huh? No I mean I have no idea what is being talked about. An asterisk in guide data and the system info screen? Screenshots please.:(
     
  6. tivoyahoo

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    It's an asterisk at the tail end of the program description. so if you hit the info button at the very end is a "*". not that exciting. but that's the marker for Rovi data. maybe somewhere in the copyright section they intended for that to indicate copyright Rovi, but whoops they left it out as it still says TMS/Gracenote under copyrights on program guide data. Probably will take another software update before that says Rovi, so look at program descriptions and system info for the asterisk to tell if you have rovi data. there's also an asterisk after your provider in system info. again, probably not even screenshot worthy. so...

    this is the end of the program description.*
    xyz cable company, middle of nowhere, usa*
     
  7. foghorn2

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    The new company will not be called Rovi, it will be TIVO, Tivo gets the last laugh and final over Dish.

    I predicted this first!

    Dish Hopper, now powered by Tivo!!
     
  8. BobCamp1

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    I don't think everybody has the software update yet. At least S2 and S3 owners don't have it yet. Maybe the rollout is going by model?
     
  9. JWhites

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    That's what I'm thinking too. What models got the upgrade already? Bolt, Roamio, or Premiere?
     
  10. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    My Premiere got the new software yesterday. No new guide data yet, though.
     
  11. TonyD79

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    My Bolt and my Minis have the software but as of this morning, no message about guide data.

    I am sure they are rolling out somewhat slowly as it it probably a huge hit on the servers.
     
  12. ajwees41

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    our roamios have the new software no rovi data yet
     
  13. JWhites

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    Yeah my Mini, Premiere and Roamio got the software about a week or so ago, just was wondering if a particular model was getting the guide data first.
     
  14. JWhites

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    Everyone doing force connects probably isn't helping matters, lol
     
  15. tivoyahoo

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    what about all the people doing the opposite and disconnecting their ethernet til this chaos settles down? I'm doing my part to alleviate the server strain and stay in good graces, well at least for 11 days of grace, instead of getting rovified ;)
     
  16. TonyD79

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    I'm being patient but the quicker it hits the better. A pretty quiet week for me recording wise and if it comes in I can deal with it.

    I assume it isn't going to be much better in 11 days as most of the problems are going to be with mapping of channels on individual systems.

    Meanwhile, I still have one fios box so I backed up my recording schedule on it.
     
  17. swyman18

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    I've been following these Rovi threads with interest and I just want to make sure I understand what I'm up against. I looked through tvguide.com/listings for my cable system and I've confirmed that there are 2 channels (among some others) that I watch frequently that are missing from the lineup. They are:

    Investigation Discovery (both SD and HD)
    Destination America (SD and HD)

    Does this mean that I can expect these channels to disappear from my Tivo channel listing with no way at all to add them back?

    If so, does anyone know if it will still be possible to manually tune to those channels, even if there is no guide data for them?
     
  18. tivoyahoo

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    No soup for me. And I'm good with that. So i guess everyone's not going to join me in a mass protest walkout/disconnect to send a message to tivo that rovi data needs more testing? ;) they should have done a public beta letting those who wanted to opt in and do so. and thus gotten more of the issues worked out prior to taking it prime time. I've been saying that since last week when I discovered nbc missing in the rovi data right in tivo's backyard.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10968989#post10968989

    but I'm just being facetious. not entirely, because yeah, I do have 2 boxes disconnected while the dust settles as a fallback / safety net / and baseline to compare with, i.e. grace vs. rovi. if you're all in on all your boxes with rovi, it's a little harder to see where you were before in good graces.
     
  19. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I'm sure TiVo would have loved to do a public beta and have more time to tackle this issue. If they were in control of the timing, this probably wouldn't be happening for many more months or even more than a year. But the timing of the Rovi offer so close to the expiration of the Gracenote contract didn't leave them much option. I suspect their people have been working non-stop just to get it ready in the form it will go out in the next few weeks. No time for betas and testing and all that stuff they would have liked to do. Gracenote data gets shut off after Sept. 15.
     
  20. TonyD79

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    I hate to be any kind of optimistic in all this doom and gloom but I have been tracking the TV Guide app to see what is there and every day I go there I find another problem I saw fixed. Today they just added the latest two channel additions to my Fios system. There are still some issues but they do seem to be working them. That is all I can ask.
     

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