TivoHD & Series3 MRV/TTG/TTCB: FAQ + Discussion

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Jan 5, 2008 #261 of 366
    ccrider2

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    Having a problem transfering some shows.
    Can someone please explain the (720/6000/6000) setting...Where?
    Thought I'd try that, but don't know where to do this.

    Thanks Much!

    Chris
     
  2. Jan 6, 2008 #262 of 366
    Case

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    I'm trying to use Tivo Desktop (with Plus Key) but the "Convert for..." selection under the Actions menu is ghosted. I have tried most of the "supported" formats. Only the MPEG2's show at all and the other formats don't even show up in the TivoDesktop Now Playing window even though I have them in the My Tivo Recordings folder.

    Any advice?
     
  3. Jan 7, 2008 #263 of 366
    peyote

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    i've given up hope on all TTG & MRV for my series 3. i'm on cox in okc & nearly all stations minus the ota stations are copy-protected. the ones that have been open to transfer aren't necessarily open the next time (very random flags - i think due to incomplete program description). sad thing is cable co's can legally do this & have no reason to reverse it.

    so what would be the point of scheduling transfers when there's no way of knowing if show is protected or not? is this MRV dream dead before i even take a lap with it?

    this will just force people to run 1-to-8 hdmi boxes in their house with complicated rf repeaters.

    anyway, i bought the dvr expander & am pleased but because of the copy flag problems & seriously thinking of a media room for the whole house. $$$$$$$ flying out of my pants... :(
     
  4. cgould

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    I've seen playback glitches now on S3-PC-S3 (eg, archive to PC and copy back) - NO editing- on several shows now, incl the final Heroes episode. It's not consistent.
    I do get glitches on edited home movie video to S3 also :-( even when I reduced bitrate down to 19Mbps (in VideoStudio11+, not Videoredo), the S3 gives glitches. I'm starting to think it's the S3 and its playback of transferred files.
     
  5. flc

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    Sorry if this has been asked, but I've created xvid .avi's in Handbrake but they do not transfer to TiVo, the desktop TiVo server craps out and requires a restart every time I try.

    I've compared the Handbraked avi to downloaded ones that work fine and the only major difference (apart from video dmensions) is the Handbraked avi has a video sample size of 24 bit as opposed to 12 bit, what does this mean and does TiVo support it?
     

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  6. untitled000

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    "The TiVos cannot currently play other formats (AVI, MP4, etc) in high-definition. The TiVo will play those high-definition files, but they will be converted to SD by TiVo Desktop."

    Is this info current/still accurate? I'd love to get an HD Tivo if it can play xvids in HD, but if the above is still true it sounds like it can not.
     
  7. moyekj

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    Unfortunately yes, it's still true. At this time S3/THD units can only handle mpeg2 playback, so any other formats must be converted to mpeg2. Note that while it's certainly possible for you to encode other formats to HD mpeg2 yourself (instead of letting Tivo Desktop do it) at this time S3/THD units are very picky about HD mpeg2 file formats and only seem to work well with HD mpeg2 files originating from Tivos. I have several HD mpeg2 files from a PC QAM tuner. Some play back fine via Tivo Desktop but most do not. In contrast if they originated from Tivo and I edit out commercials and send them back to Tivos they play back fine every time...

    If Tivo fixed these issues and allowed native mpeg4 playback it would make the S3/THD units very useful general purpose media players as well. I can only hope there will be a S3/THD software update coinciding with next release of Tivo Desktop software that will address these issues, but I'm not holding my breath...
     
  8. WhoMe

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    I’ve seen some strange MRV behavior... I just got my S3 so I've been using MRV to transfer a few recordings from my S2 to my S3 that I haven't had time to watch yet. After deleting the recordings from my S2, I looked at the recordings on my S3 via MRV from S2. They all said that they cannot be transferred back to the S2 because they are high-definition. These are S2 recordings, so they aren’t high-def and if I look at the recording information on the S3, it indicates that they are 480i. Has anyone seen this behavior before?
     
  9. David Ortiz

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    I've been transferring shows to my Vista PC since I got the TiVoHD just fine until now. Shows will not start to transfer. The transfer fails with a red x. Is there any way to troubleshoot this issue?

    The TiVo Desktop software says 1 recording 2 hours and such to go, but the file never shows up in the PC's now playing list and when I go back to transfer status it shows that the transfer failed.

    I just had an M Series cablecard installed and moved from antenna only to cable and antenna. System information shows a,a,a on the TiVoToGo line and my account shows Transfers ALLOWED.

    Not sure what the problem is.

    David
     
  10. axelbrunger

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    I've downloaded the latest version of Tivo Desktop to my Intel MacPro running Leopard (10.5.1). I've successfully transferred movies from my TivoHD to the Mac using Roxio Toast 8 as well as directly by using the https: address of my Tivo. I can play these movies (all have the .TiVo extension) on my mac using Toast Video Player. So, the transfer from the Tivo to my mac works fine.

    I then started TiVo Desktop on the Mac from System Preferences. The Tivo sees my iPhoto and iTunes libraries and I can play them on the TivoHD. So, this part works fine, too.

    I then used the Apple key to enable the (unsupported) Video transfer option in Tivo Desktop. I set the directory and media access key accordingly.

    An icon shows up in the Playlist on my TivoHD. However, when I go to this directory on the TivoHD it says that there are no recordings. I tried several different directories as well as tried converting my Tivo recordings on the mac to .mv4 format. Still, the Tivo says that there are no recordings in the directory.

    On the Mac console window I see the following error message:

    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] java.io.IOException: HTTPServer.QueryFormats: unimplemented
    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] at com.tivo.calypso.CalypsoHTTPServer.handleQueryFormats(CalypsoHTTPServer.java:789)
    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] at com.tivo.calypso.CalypsoHTTPServer.doTiVoRequest(CalypsoHTTPServer.java:882)
    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] at com.tivo.calypso.CalypsoHTTPServer.handleRequest(CalypsoHTTPServer.java:177)
    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] at com.tivo.calypso.CalypsoHTTPServer.run(CalypsoHTTPServer.java:74)
    1/20/08 2:33:32 PM [0x0-0x2ca2ca].com.apple.systempreferences[8756] at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613)

    It seems that Leopard has broken the unsupported video transfer feature of Tivo Desktop. Any suggestions what to try to fix this problem?
     
  11. leiff

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    Is Overscan available for mediaplayer11? My TTG files dont fill the top and bottom portions of player when I maximize and I'm concerned about burn-in for my 1360x768 plasma. I have a pioneer 5080 and was surprised the pannel could not do this on it's own.
     
  12. Feb 9, 2008 #272 of 366
    tluxon

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    Just got a couple TiVoHD's last week and installed TiVo Desktop 2.5.1 last night. I transferred several HD shows and tried to play them within TiVo Desktop. By default it seems to use Windows Media Player (WinXP Pro SP2). The picture looks great but there is no sound.

    Is there a way to change the default player for the TiVo Desktop Now Playing list?

    Editing these files in VideoReDo resulted in 50% or more dropped frames, but at least it confirmed to me that the audio is there. Is there some official way to "unwrap" these .TiVo files into MPEG-2 for VideoReDo or Womble editing?

    Thanks!
     
  13. Feb 9, 2008 #273 of 366
    greg_burns

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    Slower...
    Probably need AC3 codec
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/ac3filter/

    You could try unwrapping them using TivoDecode

    Here is a GUI wrapper for it.
    http://www.gmonweb.com/portal/CodingFun/Downloads/tabid/54/Default.aspx
     
  14. Feb 9, 2008 #274 of 366
    tluxon

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  15. splat1

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    Thank you very much !
    Great review and very helpful.

    I can get tivotogo to transfer my HDTV show from my HDTivo and I can convert to .ts but HDTV2MPEG will not open the file. It shows the first frame but puts a question mark at the fps and aspect ratio and advancing the slider eliminates the picture in the preview.

    Any thoughts ?
    thanks
     
  16. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Transferred TTG shows are already in encrypted mpeg2 program stream (.TiVo) format. Once you decrypt the .TiVo file you end up with an unencrypted mpeg2 program stream (.mpg) so there is no need to convert them using HDTV2MPEG (which converts mpeg2 transport stream to mpeg2 program stream).
     
  17. splat1

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    The message at the start of the thread talks of converting the tivo mpeg2 to ts and then importing the ts file into HDTV2MPEG to cut out the commercials as a free alternative to videoredo but HDTV2MPEG does not open the new .ts file. I was hoping that the author of the very helpful guide could explain how he opened the file in HDTV2MPEG.

    thanks
     
  18. HazelW

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    I have tried playing 2 different one hour HD programs with Windows Media Player 11 after transferring from a TiVo HD to my Vista computer. I skip though the commercials by dragging the little handle on the play bar. Everything works fine until about 35 minutes. When I try to skip a commercial, the player locks up and does not respond. If I let it play without skipping commercials it plays fine. Anyone else see this or have a solution?
     
  19. flyerman

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    I tried using VideoRedo to take the commercials out of my Family Guy series and it when I put them back they seem to skip. Any tricks and getting shows to Videoredo to edit out commercials and set them back okay?
     
  20. leiff

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    I noticed under performance settings under wmp11; highquality mode vastly improved picture quality. However this wasn't the default mode. Are their any other tweaks anyone can recommend to improve player performance? Is everyone using wmp11 to view their tivo shows?
     

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