TivoHD eSATA Upgrade troubles, need help

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  1. NewNole2001

    NewNole2001 New Member

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    I bought the Seagate 500GB eSATA drive that CompUSA had on sale yesterday to add to the 500GB drive already in my TivoHD.

    I downloaded the newest version of WinMFS (Beta 5)

    The eSATA drive was automounted by windows, so I selected just it in WinMFS and used the "Delete Format" option.

    I then went back, and chose the internal drive as "A" and the eSATA as "B," and used the MFSAdd option.

    I then plugged in the internal TivoHD HDD and the eSATA drive and booted the Tivo.

    The Tivo would continually reboot. Sometime I would get the GSOD saying that the tivo would fix the serious errors and it would take three hours. Within about a minute or so, the Tivo would reboot, and the GSOD would appear again.

    I finally gave up, unplugged the Tivo, unplugged the eSATA drive, and rebooted. The Tivo would complain that the external drive was missing and would I like to do away with it. I'd choose yes, clicking thumbs down three times then hit enter.

    the tivo would think for about thirty seconds, reboot, and I'd get the same screen.

    I unplugged the Tivo drive and plugged it in to my computer. I opened WinMFS and selected the Tivo drive and then did a restore from a truncated backup I had made before I started this process.

    I then pluged the Tivo drive back in to the Tivo, and rebooted. I got a GSOD again, it rebooted, then gave me a GSOD, but actually repaired the drive. It only took about 5 or 10 minutes. It rebooted, then booted successfully.

    Anyone have any ideas? I can post the MFSInfo from when I had the two drives married tonight if that will help.

    I'm rather confused.

    Thanks
     
  2. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    What version of software are you on?

    eSata is still not officiallly supported by TiVo, especially on the TiVoHD and the guys that updated WinMFS only claimed that their software would work with the given software versions (the last time I checked)...you might want to check with the site/them again on their take of the "Fall" update version, v9.1x that just recently got pushed down.

    Per previous announcements, TiVo is expected to officially support the eSata port on TiVoHDs sometime this year...but who knows what that means and in what form.

    If this is truly the "Fall" update, then either a point release will add eSata or they'll flip a switch to turn it on....who knows what 9.1.x does under the hood right now when it comes to eSata...
     
  3. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    Twin Cities...
    One other point,

    Presidence has been set with TiVo favor their own hardware. When the Series2 units first got wireless usb support, they supported a number of third party wireless ethernet adapters, but once they got their own fully on the market...all newer models (especially TiVoHD) only support the TiVo Wireless Ethernet adapter.

    Perhaps TiVo is going to do the same with eSata drives....there has been some discussion here that TiVo is looking to sell an official "Supported" eSata drive before the end of the year (or at least announce it).
     
  4. mrdazzo7

    mrdazzo7 Well-Known Member

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    I find it kind of annoying that they keep forcing different things on us, like requiring the use of their specific USB Adapter. I mean, I guess they're a company looking to make money, so why not, but it's really limiting to people who already have other brands...I have two Netgear wireless adapters that I can't use w/ my S3 that's coming, and all these people who already have eSata drives (I'm not there yet), might have to buy a Tivo-Brand one, even though they already have their own? Just seems like gouging since you don't have a choice. Tivo's lucky I love them anyway! haha.
     
  5. NewNole2001

    NewNole2001 New Member

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    I'm using v8.1.7c2, I believe. I'll double check when I get home.

    Am I following the correct sequence for doing the 'marriage'?.

    Thanks
     
  6. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

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    You can't (currently) use an eSATA drive with the new HD tivo. You can look at the threads.

    It's not fair complaining about ethernet adapters. Companies would change the chipset but keep the model number the same. Most of the adapters don't offer linux drivers. It doesn't make sense for tivo to be in the business of writing drivers to adapters. Every adapter supplies a windows driver, or works with windows stock drivers.
     
  7. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    Annoying yes, but there's actually more in a TiVo Wireless Adapter than providing wireless G capablitity. It actually offloads some of the file processing required from the main cpu. TiVo2Go and MRV are actually faster on wireless due to TiVo's groovy little adapter.
     
  8. mrdazzo7

    mrdazzo7 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, ok you're right. It's frustrating sometimes but in that case it does make sense. I guess it's just the fact that you have no choice. Some people don't use TTG or MRV, so to spend the extra $50 for the adapter if you already have one kind of sucks. But i get the reasoning behind it.
     
  9. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Did you upgrade using Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista? Other versions of Windows will mess up the Tivo drive and drive upgrades.

    The Seagate eSATA drives are not the best choice. Did you read FAQs #36 and #38 in the eSATA Drive Expansion FAQ?
     
  10. joneSi

    joneSi New Member

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    Hmmm...not to be contrarian or anything...but that isn't the case anymore, though the method called 'kickstart 62' won't work).

    See this link for more info

    The eSata port has been enabled in 8.1c2 and may be used in WinMFS. Enjoy!

    joneSi
     
  11. NewNole2001

    NewNole2001 New Member

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    Here is the MFSInfo text after I have married the drives (but it doesn't boot)

    Partition Maps
    #: type name length base ( size )
    1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63@1 ( 31.5K)
    2 Image Bootstrap 1 1@309550766 ( 512.0 )
    3 Image Kernel 1 8192@309550767 ( 4.0M)
    4 Ext2 Root 1 524288@309558959 ( 256.0M)
    5 Image Bootstrap 2 1@310083247 ( 512.0 )
    6 Image Kernel 2 8192@310083248 ( 4.0M)
    7 Ext2 Root 2 524288@310091440 ( 256.0M)
    8 Swap Linux swap 262144@310615728 ( 128.0M)
    9 Ext2 /var 524288@310877872 ( 256.0M)
    10 MFS MFS application region 589824@311402160 ( 288.0M)
    11 MFS MFS media region 137630712@171920054 ( 65.6G)
    12 MFS MFS application region 2 589824@311991984 ( 288.0M)
    13 MFS MFS media region 2 171919990@64 ( 82.0G)
    14 MFS MFS App by Winmfs 2048@312581808 ( 1.0M)
    15 MFS MFS Media by Winmfs 664186880@312583856 ( 316.7G)

    Tivo B drive
    1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63@1 ( 31.5K)
    2 MFS MFS App by Winmfs 2048@64 ( 1.0M)
    3 MFS MFS Media by Winmfs 976752640@2112 ( 465.8G)

    Total SA SD Hours: 15760 Total DTV SD Hours: 13758 99 % Free
    Software: 8.1.7c2-01-2-652 Tivo Model: TCD652160

    The full file is attached, didn't want to post all of it.
     

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  12. spike2k5

    spike2k5 New Member

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    You ended with way too may zones.
    Something must have gone.

    What Windows and service pack did you use?

    You should divorce it by boot w/o the eSATA drive in your Tivo.
     
  13. NewNole2001

    NewNole2001 New Member

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    I'm using Vista Ultimate.

    I have the Tivo running w/o the eSATA drive. Let me know what to do, and I'll try it after Heroes finish :p

    Normally I'm not this n00bish, but do I just need to run MFSAdd after I have selected both drives?

    If it will help, I can post the MFSInfo of the drive as it stands now (running properly on its own w/o the eSATA drive)

    Please let me know.

    Thanks Spike2k5 for being so helpfel :)
     

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