Tivo, you've raised your prices, now invest in some basic software maintenance!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by garys, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002


    It seems like they do where they can make money. With the satellite and cable providers.
  2. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    You could hex edit with it.

    Of course I'm talking about back when DOS was only up to about version 4 or 5.
  3. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    In this case it seems like Tivo is just porting existing code to run on a different hardware platform.
  4. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    DOS 4.1 made Norton a lot of money what with all the glitches in DOS 4.1

    I do recall hex editing DOS executable to change the messages to what I wanted them to say. "44 files Pirated". :D
  5. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2001


    I wasted some time back in high school playing around with hex editing various game's save files.

    Xcom was amusing when you turned the laser rifle into an inhumanly accurate max damage weapon. You could have one guy just picking aliens off from across the map the second they stepped out of their UFO. :D
  6. ginolee

    ginolee New Member

    Sep 13, 2006
    I agree that Tivo needs to update it's Netflix implementation. I've got a Tivo Series 3 and it's rock solid, except for when I use Netflix. This week, I've had to reboot my Tivo at least three times -- all while using Netflix on Tivo.
    Take a look at the Roku player to get ideas on how to make it better. Also Tivo needs to make it rock solid -- it's aggravating to reboot my Tivo and it takes 5-10 minutes each time.

    By the way, I just ended up ordering a Roku so I can use it for Netflix. My old Roku had died after about a year and I was reluctant to get another one because I reasoned that I could access Netflix via Tivo. But compared to the Roku, the Tivo Netflix user experience is extremely poor.

    I just realized it's too much of a hassle to continue to try to use Tivo's Netflix..
  7. motech

    motech Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    id have to argue that apple tv has the best netflix interface.

    either way, tivo's is really lacking. instant que only?
    lame ..

    im really hoping they are working on improving this.
  8. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    It (the Tivo) also has one of the best search functions for netflix...
  9. Johncv

    Johncv Well-Known Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Chula Vista, CA
    You cannot compare the TiVo version of Netflix with the PS3 version of Netflix. Netflix has stated that PS3 version of it software uses the PS3 cell processor to generate the HD picture and 5.1 surround sound. Netflix also stated that they are working on similar versions of the software for the Premiere TiVo and the X-Box. TiVo has no control over when the software will be release.
  10. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    Jul 14, 2002
    Tivo certainly has some control. It's their box! They need to push Netflix harder.
  11. dave13077

    dave13077 Member

    Jan 11, 2009
    The problem Tivo has is that the more subs they lose the less clout they have over others. Why is Netflix going to spend time and money on a platform that is losing customers. An increase in subs would give Tivo more power to get others to pay attention to them.
  12. aridon

    aridon Member

    Aug 31, 2006
    Its not just that. Tivo has shifted its focus from retail to pushing software to cable and satellite. Netflix will not be allowed on those boxes ever since it competes with providers own offerings. Considering this its not surprising netflix isn't investing heavily in fancy new ui on a platform it likely won't be welcome on.
  13. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Lets be honest the streaming media platforms of the future will likely be TVs, blu-ray players, and gaming councils. Heck Panasonic is moving too a 1.4 GHz dual core chip. Stand alone boxes like Roku only have a few years of sales left no matter what.

    However stand alone DVRs and TiVo in particular can still be relevant as streaming media devices. It really depends on if they can develop a stand alone DVR that is more than a niche product. Right now the only hope of that is replacing cable cards with something like Allvid that actually works well with all pay TV providers. Even then people may just end up preferring to use their TVs for streaming media and their DVR just as a DVR.

    The wild card is who will end up doing search the best and building a UI that is brain dead simple. With Google, Apple, & Microsoft all in the hunt to own TV watching eye balls it will be interesting to see what we get in the next few years.
  14. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

    Apr 2, 2005
    I don't see it that way. I think the stand alone streaming boxes are more desirable than having the stuff built-into your tv. Granted, in theory, there are advantages there. Obvious ones. No extra box. NO extra remote.

    But the reality is the tv companies are good at making tvs not software. And you don't want to replace your tv in 3 years if the streaming tech gets alot better. I also don't see tv companies constantly updating their software. I think the variety of different models is not going to help that. I also think they don't have alot of incentive to do that once you buy the TV.

    So I think boxes are here to stay and are the way to go. They are under $100. Power efficient. Turn on right away. The size of a hockey puck in the case of the ATV. And the software on the ATV at least beats anything on a BR player or TV and even consoles. Other consoles like the 360 can have faster interfaces because of all their horsepower, but lack the power efficiency, pricepoint, size, lack of noise and instant-on ability of an ATV and probably Roku.

    meanwhile I think the DVR goes away so I wouldn't look to it to support your future streaming tech. Even if it doesn't go away in the next 5 years you're better off buying a small streaming box for streaming given how lackluster the Premiere's streaming features are.

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