Tivo won't update & other networking matters

Did you just change your FiOS router? The latest Verizon-provided routers tend to block certain services (third-party VoIP comes to mind) that they don't understand.

All of my TiVo devices (Roamios, Bolts, and Minis) have at least one switch, and in most cases two switches, between the device and my gateway router. All of them connect to the TiVo service without issue. I suppose there is some way a layer 2 device could interfere with layer 3 routing but it's not obvious to me at the moment.

No idea on the Edge issue other than the Edge is TE4 and the Mini's are TE3 and can't upgrade for some reason.

 

I'm using 3 sets of (dumb) switches, w/Tivo's or Mini's off all of them & I've never had any problems with this...

 

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I have an Xfinity cable modem and use MoCA with it. No switches. Two TiVos (Roamio and Mini Lux) connect via MoCA and the third (Mini Lux) connects via a WiFi card plugged into its Ethernet port. No connection issues or problems at all.

Edit: @krkaufman is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful members here on MoCA setup and can probably point you in the right direction.

 

Sounds like you should be able to do MoCA, given the coax availability, but you’ll have some trivial work to do to make sure all the targeted locations are interconnected via coax, ideally via MoCA-compatible splitters (e.g.) -- though standard cable-rated (5-1002 MHz) splitters can work just fine for a TiVo MoCA setup.

Also, what router are you using? If a FiOS-supplied router, it likely has a built-in MoCA bridge (akin to a built-in Wi-Fi access point), making the MoCA setup even easier; otherwise, a standalone MoCA adapter at the router location may be required to function as the main MoCA/Ethernet bridge.

As for a “PoE” MoCA filter, a component used to prevent MoCA signals from traveling out onto a provider’s premise and possibly to neighboring homes, a fiber FiOS setup doesn’t require one for this security purpose, since the ONT serves the same purpose. That said, the “PoE” MoCA filter also provides a performance benefit, by efficiently reflecting the MoCA signals back onto the home coax plant, so you may benefit from using one, properly located.

I'm a bit scatter-brained, right now, so please don't hesitate to question the above. Hopefully somebody will make it clear how easy a MoCA setup can be, if I'm unable to do so.

 

Will try to reply Weds.

 

I too have multiple switches between my Roamio, my mini, and my router with no issues. Whoever told you that switches were a problem is wrong. Early on, there was an issue with some "Green" switches when their ports went into energy savings mode, but that was since fixed with a software revision on TiVo's par.

 

I also have switches between Tivo and router. I have not had connection problems due to the switches. I have had trouble with Tivo calling home due to firewall specifications. I changed from Unifi to Untangle, and Tivos would not make the maint calls. They will succeed with the guide calls no problem. I had to disable Untangle's firewall scan of the Tivo boxes in order for it to work. I had a similar problem with making HP printers connect to AirPrint devices. I had to insulate them from firewall scan in order to connect using Airprint. I would seek to eliminate firewall restrictions on the Tivo boxes before I switched fully to Moca. I had a MOCA network that was never as reliable as a pure ethernet network. I still have two MOCA supported tvs, but just because it is so much trouble to swap the cables. I do not use a Tivo to create the MOCA network, I use a Tivo MOCA bridge. Good luck.