Tivo won't be welcomed into our living rooms anymore!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sac84371, May 24, 2011.

  1. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 TV Buff!

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    What's the old saying?
    Whine elsewhere.
     
  2. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    must resist urge to say Apple and/or Microsoft
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    That's not a bug, that's a feature!:)
     
  4. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Actually I would resist the urge to say Google, as in Google TV ;)
     
  5. larrs

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    Not much discussion about it, but Google has emerged (IMO) as the best bet to buy Tivo. Given the networks crapping on GoogleTV, Google owning Tivo would give one access to all the content needed through a combination of recording and streaming. I could see a unified search actually working through multiple outlets and schedules like the Tivo has but higher powered with all of the Google partnerships out there.

    THis would likely cause the content providers enough issue to relent on access to programming. After all, at least with online access, they can control ads unlike with recording.

    Google/Tivo makes more sense than Apple/Tivo that was talked about around here so much (again, IMO).
     
  6. anotherlab

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    What would Google gain by purchasing TiVo? They already own one Linux derived OS with Android, they don't need the TiVo variant. It would also put them in the retail channel, something they historically prefer to avoid.

    I never gave any credence to the rumors that Apple was interested in TiVo. Recording shows off the air would conflict with Apple selling or renting you those shows through iTunes.

    Just out of curiosity, what has Google done that would make them be a likely suspect to buy TiVo?
     
  7. Stuxnet

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    How about viewing data, targeted ads... that's Google's core business... selling ads, ads tailored to your interests, or ads that your habits suggest you might find interest... they are defining you by your behaviors, they are predicting your response by the behavior patterns of others... See for yourself.
     
  8. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I always thought Tivo was missing a big boat in targeted ads. IE analyzing what you stop and watch and replacing ads with more of that stuff. Yea there is some carriage negotiation but they could work that out with cable companies they partner with. Just demoing how they slowed down the fast forward with more successful tailored ads would be big business an exactly what Google does.
     
  9. Grakthis

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    I didn't say that. Read what I actually typed instead of strawmanning.

    [quoet]I don't really get how you got to this line of thinking. you could of made it more quiet, you cant complain that its loud when you're not willing to correct it.[/quote]

    That's the point. I don't want to put more time into it. I want it to work.

    Wow, that was insightful. No wait...

    Yeah, anybody can replace their video card...

    Do you actually know any people IRL?
     
  10. Jun 1, 2011 #170 of 177
    mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

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    Ellicott...
    If you want it to work then you need to put more time into getting things right. It doesn't happen simply by wishing it. Neither does complaining about it. Your whole argument against HTPCs seems to be centered around the fact that you couldn't get yours working correctly and it's too noisy. It doesn't take a PC guru to set up a Media Center PC. Most people are able to install the software and follow a simple guide to have a stable, working HTPC. If you encounter problems then you need to identify what they are and take the appropriate corrective actions. It's no different than any other PC in that regard.

    If your HTPC is too noisy then replace the stock fans with quieter ones. It's really just that simple. It only takes a couple minutes of your time to do the deed. Here's a list of devices that have fans that should be upgraded to reduce noise:

    CPU cooler
    Graphics card fan
    Power supply
    Case fan(s)

    Stock CPU coolers are fine for a desktop PC but you should really consider a quiet aftermarket solution for an HTPC. Fans on graphics cards are notorious for being noisy, as are many stock case fans. All of the aforementioned coolers can easily be upgraded with quieter fans. For a quiet power supply, you will probably have to upgrade the PSU unless you don't mind doing a little surgery. If your PC case came with an included power supply then chances are it's a cheap supply and should be replaced anyway. Most bundled PSU/case combos aren't usually up to the task and also quite inefficient unless they're from a supplier like Antec or other name PSU manufacturer. Fan speed controls can also help squelch noisy fans by reducing the speed and cutting down the air flow. This should be done judiciously so as not to reduce the cooling such that the devices start overheating. Here's my favorite source for quiet PC product reviews:

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/
     
  11. Jun 2, 2011 #171 of 177
    puffy_fluff

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    Is that a complete sentence?
     
  12. Jun 4, 2011 #172 of 177
    mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    In case anyone's interested, I found this post at the Missing Remote that has several vendors selling the Ceton InfiniTV4 for well under $300. This now makes the InfiniTV4 a better deal than the upcoming SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime models. It also makes it even more cost competitive than a Tivo (one vendor has the InfiniTV4 for only $256 with free shipping). Two InfiniTV4's now cost less than a single Tivo Premiere with lifetime. That's a total of eight tuners with the Cetons vs. only two with a Premiere, and the Ceton tuners can be shared with any other PC in the house.

    I figured it was just a matter of time before Ceton lowered their price to be competitive. I assume that Ceton has more than recouped their start-up costs with the number of tuners they've sold so far.
     
  13. Jun 4, 2011 #173 of 177
    larrs

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    Good price. I guess the upcoming competition scared them into it. I may have to look at this just to play with in conjunction with my Tivos and see how it works.
     
  14. Jun 4, 2011 #174 of 177
    innocentfreak

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    The only issue which I still haven't found a solution for is unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a KMTTG type tool that can strip the WTV container to reveal the Mpeg2. You have to convert to DVR-MS first.

    My original plan was to have a HTPC in one room and just strip the containers off recordings to pull the shows to my TiVos. I got tired of looking for a solution though since there didn't seem to be a simple solution.
     
  15. Jun 4, 2011 #175 of 177
    larrs

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    I thought VideoRedo would handle it?
     
  16. Jun 4, 2011 #176 of 177
    innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    It might. I was just looking for something free and lightweight. I don't care about editing out commercials since I watch and delete.

    I also wasn't a huge fan of the naming structure and couldn't find a way to easily convert the name without having to do every file manually.
     
  17. Jun 5, 2011 #177 of 177
    mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

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    Ellicott...
    The latest version of VideoReDo will handle wtv files directly. I've got a wtv conversion tool that will do bulk conversions of wtv files to dvr-ms format that I downloaded via The Green Button forums. I'm on vacation this week and I don't have access to my main PC but if I find the link I'll post it.

    Found it:

    http://mctvconverter.vivolum.net/
     

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