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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sac84371, May 24, 2011.
Okay that was just LOL funny!!
Best analogy, ever. There are a lot of similarities between Tivo and Palm.
Simple: Cablecard. Tivo, give 'em credit, waded into a minefield with that one and no one else is willing until it is all fixed.
Once it is, I suspect there will be companies willing to go for it. After all, an HTPC has all of the stuff we would like to see from a Tivo. If one of the Media Center companies could partner with a hardware company, there's no limit to what they could do.
LOLOL that's a good one, I busted out laughing in the middle of the office!
Sadly, I have to agree as well. Tivo is still struggling to stay in the news, but they'll slip into irrelevance (not the town in Kansas, either) increasingly quickly if they don't figure out a way to turn things around somehow.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that Allvid is going to be too little, too late for Tivo as we know it. Hopefully a new competitor will rise from the ashes of Cablecard, though.
It could be "$8/month more than a non-DVR box," or $8/month for your only box if it's a DVR (it would show up as just an $8/month charge - additional boxes that are DVRs show up as $16/month, I think).
I agree completely. But having bought a Premiere last week, I need to say that the only grace saving tivo is that the motorola DVR from TWC is worse than tivo and still priced higher. I think that substituting the Motorola DVR from TWC with the premiere, made some economic sense, but I feel that TIVO has let down its fans/costumers because it's becoming irrelevant tecnologically and it's close to going out of businesss. I hope they get a kick in the pants, get their act togheter, and avoid going out of business. I also hope that they get creative wih technology to improve their product and also pricing. Who in their right mind dare to rise prices at this time?
I'd like to see this device. I'm open to using something like this, but my history with comcast hardware has me skeptical. Their software is totally lacking user friendliness, the remote control is a mess, and the motorola boxes that my franchise is still pushing look like they should be rack-mounted in some data center - they are immense and just plain ugly.
I like my tivo. I like the ability to write software and utilize community written software (pytivo, streambaby, galleon, harmonium, kmttg, the list goes on) to totally customize your home theater environment. You can probably do most of these things with an HTPC, but I doubt if comcast will ever open things up to this degree.
Yes I wish Tivo would be a bit more agile in adopting new technology, and I do not like some of their present implementations, but it remains, for me, the cream of the crop as far as DVR's are concerned
I think he meant to imply that your comments were hard to follow due to the writing style.
For myself, I would like to know what you plan to use as a DVR now that TiVo is not on your list. All of us are not necessarily in agreement that banishing TiVo is the best course of action.
hard drives are likely the big thing. I would buy a TiVo premiere and get my own large 2TB drive to put in it versus paying the extra cost for a Premiere XL
similar with an HTPC - lots of hard drive space would be one of my top tweaks
even if you have no other options, Id rather do without then continue to reward Tivo for nothing. my next solution will probably be a nettop + windows media center. I wonder how much I even need cable in this world of netflix,hulu and sports streaming services.
I take offense when anyone speaks for me by including words like "LISTEN TO US ALL" and "making it back into our living rooms". I'll be the one to decide whether TiVo makes it back into my living room or not.
I was talking about configuring the DVR software to have the same features as Tivo. Are you saying an HTPC doesn't need to be rebooted every now and then?
I hear you ZeoTivo and I respect your perspective as well. My use will be my Apple TV 2 which I just love and there are plans for the ATV2 to also get Hulu+ which will be a game changer for me.
My frustration is based on the lack of understanding on Tivo's part. I have been a loyal user of Tivo products for years. In the last 24 months my experience with Tivo has been very negative. Not one time or two times but upwards of five to six times resulting in a very bad taste in my mouth.
I have been kind and respectful to the process with Tivo and never asked for anything other than to have a working Tivo with the terms that I have agreed to. The lack of response from Tivo to remedy my concerns have been overwhelming. So I have had enough. Tivo is not the Tivo of 10 years ago, or 5 years ago or of 2 years ago. Tivo lost me as a diehard fan simply by not trying to make a wrong right. Not giving me more than what I paid for just making it work as promised and for what I paid for.
Hope this gives you a bit more insight and believe me it took me a long time to get to this point. I was a huge Tivo fan and converted many a family member to the service. Now not so much.
You need to lighten up. If that is the issue you had with me that why didn't you state that. You instead made a critical remark about how I wrote the OP versus stating the above opinion. So which is it are you offended based on the above statements or are you offended by my writing style.
So once again lighten up and take the thread for what it is. If you don't like the idea of this thread or the content don't read it. Don't comment on it, don't participate. That is your option. If you do elect to post a statement I will be happy to put myself in your shoes and try to understand your perspective without acting like a child and call you names or make any off color remarks.
Nah na na na Nah Nah! And so's your mother.... These coffee house threads can really be entertaining... sorta.
Good point. Can't believe I feel into that trap. I will end it here by not posting another reply to Orange. I should of known better.
I got the notion from your previous posting.
Let me see...
'Don't want it, unless the cost is no higher than for 2 tuners. Since a 4 tuner card all by itself costs nearly as much as a TiVo, that seems unlikely.
'Never used it when I had it for free. More importantly, I want my DVR attached to my LAN. Any ON Demand box is going to almost surely be tru2way. Maybe you like Big Brother spying on you, but I surely don't. It's cetrainly not worth giving up my privacy and my ability to control the equipment I have in my house.
'Never yet seen one, either implemented or proposed, that was not worse than TiVo's SD menus, bad as they are.
I'm paying $0 a month for two TiVos and $9.95 a month for the 3rd.
Tell me, again, exactly what is supposed to be attractive about this proposed box?
Of course, the fact Comcast does not service my residence makes it all rather moot, in the first place.
When one does not bother to take any care in how they speak - or rather, type - then one's statements tend to lack credibitlity. At best, when someone writes "should of" instead of "should have", it suggests a lack of properly exercised critical faculties. At worst, sloppy grammar is offensive, and bespeaks a dreadful public education system.
If you want your message to be heard and taken into considderation, then I suggest you take some care with your grammar. Otherwise, there is a very real tendency on the part of the reader to see only the bad grammar and dismiss the content out of hand.
It is, of course, your choice.
OP, we've heard it all before. It is an opinion felt by many (do a search. You'll see).