TIVO without Subscription

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by PPP, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. PPP

    PPP New Member

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    Hi guys, this is my first post so be gentle!

    I am interested in getting a Tivo and have seen many for sale on Ebay UK, a lot of people mentin the £10/month or £200/lifetime subscriptions and i was wondering is it possible to use Tivo without a subscription, kind of like a fancy video recorder. I understand i would not get the schedule updates, but just wondered if it was possible or not.

    Many Thanks
     
  2. Glesgie

    Glesgie New Member

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    You can use an unsubbed TiVo as a dumb VCR, but you are limited to manual
    recordings without even the reapeat every day/week extras.
    Also it will nag you constantly about having no program data.

    Usually know as Boat Anchor Mode because that is about all it is good for.

    LIfetime sub of £200 is my recomendation if you have the cash.
     
  3. PPP

    PPP New Member

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    cool ta
     
  4. iankb

    iankb New Member

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    You can get a new single-tuner, hard-drive Freeview recorder for as little as £100 nowadays. They are all a bit buggy until they sort the firmware out, but are probably a better long-term bet than an unsubscribed TiVo. However, a subscribed TiVo is a much more sophisticated and useful machine, and doesn't really have any bugs to speak of.
     
  5. worm

    worm Damn The Man!

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    Until you start fiddling with it :)
     
  6. ericd121

    ericd121 Crown Topper

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    Milton...
    This is incorrect. One of my Tivos was unsubbed for a year.
    I could, and did, set up Manual Recordings that repeated Weekly, Daily and Mon-Fri.
    They are unhelpfully labelled; e.g. Manual Recording: Friday 13/1 7:00pm
    True.
    I agree. Well worth the money.
     
  7. bigwold

    bigwold Sedentary Member

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    But you can rename them once recorded if you have tivoweb.
     
  8. aerialplug

    aerialplug Serious TiVo User

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    I agree - an unsubbed TiVo will allow you to set up repeating manual recordings. I hesitated to post as my second TiVo is a US TiVo with a lifetime subscription - it's just that it doesn't get any schedule data when I dial up so has reverted to boat-anchor mode.

    In fact, it's quite useful for regularly recurring programmes.
     
  9. Glesgie

    Glesgie New Member

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    Thanks for the corrections.
    As I do not have an unsubbed TiVo, I could not verify the bit about repeated manual recordings.
     
  10. tdenson

    tdenson New Member

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    I believe there are ways round that by setting the Linux system date back.
     
  11. liveround

    liveround New Member

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    Hi

    I have used my tivo without a sub for 3 years. Can heartily recommend it, I wouldn't be with out it.

    Unfortunately the system clock is getting faster, it was 10 minutes fast and is now 12-13 fast. It's a problem if you want to record two different programmes on different channel consecutively as the start or end of the programme is on a different recording.


    Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the internal clock ?

    Thanks
    lr
     
  12. ericd121

    ericd121 Crown Topper

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    Milton...
    Make a daily call; the clock will be set to the correct time.
     
  13. einstein

    einstein New Member

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    if you search the forums and google you can get round this issue and the nags will be gone forever.
     
  14. ywu

    ywu TiVo User

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    I had dilemma recently having been running a spare tivo in a second room without sub and using the digiguide+manrec tool instead. I've spent c.£300 on getting an old pc set up with Windows Media Centre 2005 thinking it's a better overall system, and whilst that's true (e.g. it plays/records dvds) the depth of the user experience is nowhere near Tivo. I now can't help thinking that spending £200 on a lifetime sub plus a Freeview/DVD/HD combo might have been a better investment.
     
  15. liveround

    liveround New Member

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    Surely I cannot make a daily call when I don't have a sub ? I seem to remember something that if you make a daily call without a sub it will remove the manual record mode, anyone know ?

    Thanks
    lr
     
  16. browellm

    browellm New Member

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    Nah! If Tivo wanted to really block the manual record feature, they would set it to time out after so many days without a daily call.
     
  17. healeydave

    healeydave from tivoland.com

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    Extracted this info from somewhere a while back, thought it might come in useful one day.

    From a TiVo bash session, type the following:


    bash-2.02# export TZ=GMT

    Substitute GMT for your timezone if in the USA for example

    bash-2.02# date MMDDhhmmYY.ss


    MM = 2 digit month
    DD = 2 digit day
    hh = 2 digit hour (24-hour format)
    mm = 2 digit minute
    YY = 2 digit year (optionally, 4 digits long)
    ss = 2 digit seconds

    Choose the right date/time and set it accordingly. This will set the proper time on your TiVo.
     
  18. liveround

    liveround New Member

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    What is required to do this ? Is this a linux command ? What software / serial lead etc is required ?

    Thanks
    lr
     
  19. ericd121

    ericd121 Crown Topper

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    Milton...
    I can confirm what browellm said.

    A daily call does not affect an unsubbed TiVo's functions (being unsubbed does);
    as stated by me above, it will do repeating Manual Recordings.

    If you re-connect the phone cord, and make a Daily Call, it will reset the clock.

    If you leave the phone cord connected, the TiVo will call in once a week, thus keeping its clock accurate.
     
  20. liveround

    liveround New Member

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    My tivo has an account status of 2: Not setup. When I bought the Tivo I only used the grace period and never had a sub.

    Can I assume that there is no difference from this and a machine that had a sub and subsequently had it canelled ?

    Thanks
    lr
     

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