Tivo with Fios TV

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by unicorngoddess, Dec 5, 2005.

  1. Aug 22, 2006 #61 of 166

    stanindenton New Member

    Aug 22, 2006


    I read this entire thread and there was no solution to the problem of getting my TIVO to work with Fios. It definitely doesn't work!!! I've had the Verizon techs tell me several different stories from "We don't suppot TIVO" to "TIVO does not work with Fios" to "Sure it works, we get these questions all the time. Try this...".
    IT DOESN'T WORK!!! The TIVO techs know even less. Does anyone have any solution?

    The service is awesome and is making me think of getting rid of my TIVO, which I desperately do not want to do.

  2. Aug 23, 2006 #62 of 166

    jdavidson .

    Aug 23, 2006

    I have two Sony SVR-3000 boxes I am using with my Verizon FiOS service. In both cases I have the incoming signal running through my cablebox (Motorola QIP-2500, which will *not* work with a serial cable), then to the TiVo boxes, then to the TV.

    In both cases I had to dig up some old IR blasters in order to get this to work. Before finding them I tried about every store in Flower Mound and Lewisville, no one carries them. (I did have one service guy at the stereo shop next to Coker Carpets on I-35 offer to bring in some from his own home though.)

    While I use to run all of my TiVos on channel 4, some conflict with the FiOS set-up caused me to change to channel 3 in order to get it to work on Box 1.

    On Box 2 I have a splitter before the cable box, sending the TiVo to Video Input #1 and a plain FiOS signal to the TV. This allows for a reduced channel set while the TiVo is recording something else.

    Note, everytime FiOS sends a software update they restart the cablebox. EXCEPT, the Motorola QIP-2500 does not automatically turn itself back on. Therefore, unless you see the power light is off you may be missing shows for a few hours or days. Verizon's customer service has no clue about changing this.

    RE: the serial cable and the QIP-2500, I spent a bit of time on the phone, even pointing them to Motorola's online documentation for the cablebox. They admitted to knowing nothing about the features of the box or what was and was not enabled.

    Best of luck,
  3. Aug 23, 2006 #63 of 166

    JohnBrowning Member

    Jul 15, 2004
    Plano, TX
    Can you be a bit more specific about what doesn't work? It works fine at my house. I have the Moto box connected to the TiVo over S-video and component audio cables. Same connection from the TiVo to the TV. Unfortunately, have to use the IR blaster since the serial port on the Moto is not enabled. When you run guided setup, you have to select "Verizon - Keller" as the channel lineup. Have you tried to test all of your connections and cables? That might be a place to start.

    Tom in Plano
  4. Aug 23, 2006 #64 of 166

    Cgrisamore Member

    Dec 25, 2003
    Standalone Series 2 working just fine in Flower Mound with Verizon FIOS. The Tivo has its own set top box which is being controlled with the IR blaster (ordered the cables from TIVO). On the day of the install, I just redid guided setup and it's been flawless ever since. Channel changing with the IR control is a bit slow but since I pretty much exclusively watch recorded content, this is not a problem for me. I have not missed a single program.
  5. Aug 24, 2006 #65 of 166

    musicforme It's a Dry Heat

    Nov 19, 2003
    Scottsdale, AZ


    As I mentioned a couple weeks ago, I exchanged e-mails with a public relations person at Verizon. He wrote me the following last week:

    I apologize for the delay in responding, but these are busy times at
    Verizon as we roll out new FiOS TV services like Home Media DVR. I sent
    your message to the FiOS TV product management team, and they are now
    considering your request. If they find that this function can be enabled,
    they would first need to test it extensively in Verizon's network before
    making it available to customers. Another company's experience with the
    function in their network may be different from ours since they use
    different STBs. I'm sorry we can't give you a more definitive answer now,
    but your request has reached the right people. We appreciate your interest
    in FiOS TV, and I will follow up with you when I have more information.

    At least the proper people are now aware that we want the ability to control the cable boxes with our Tivos via the serial port.
  6. Aug 24, 2006 #66 of 166

    TampaDon Don

    Apr 26, 2004
    San Tan...

    I'm near Tampa, Florida and got FIOS TV installed a month ago. I have three of the Motorola QIP2500-2 STB's and 3 Series 2 TIVO's. They worked from day one with the IR blaster cables. Haven't had a problem.

  7. Aug 24, 2006 #67 of 166

    daneyul Member

    Jun 24, 2006
    It depends on what you define as a problem.

    To me, it's a problem that it takes so long to change channels with the IR blasters.

    And...the fact that it can't keep up when the up/down channel buttons are pressed (and that it can get lost if you try) is a problem to me too.

    And I consider it a problem that a perfectly good serial port on the STB unit is there for expressly this purpose (allowing another device to signal channel changes) but Verizon has seen fit to not implement it with a few lines of code and a day of testing.
  8. Aug 24, 2006 #68 of 166

    daneyul Member

    Jun 24, 2006
    Jeez... I don't want to be mean...but without saying a word about what problem you're having, what in the world do you expect to get from this forum? Are we supposed to play 20 questions to dig out what's happening? Do you think we're all clairvoyant and will automatically know exactly what you've tried and what problems your seeing? Sheesh! How can somebody expect others to try to help them with a problem when they won't even take the time to describe the problem they're having?????
  9. Aug 24, 2006 #69 of 166

    robertq New Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    I recently got FIOS here in Massachusetts and love the service. However, I do miss the DirecTivo I had with DirecTV. (I had to cancel DirecTV because the trees finally blocked my signal to the satellite).

    I was hoping to purchase a single Series 2 DT and connect two FIOS STB boxes to it via composite out/in. However, it appears that the Series 2 DT only supports one composite in (and one remote port), so it appears that I have to purchase two single tuners Tivo's to get the dual tuner functionality. Is this correct?

    If so, is it possible to play the output from one Tivo through the other? The problem with two tivo's is that you would have to manually program each one, and resolving conflicts becomes a much harder problem.

    However, it looks like the Series 3 Tivo with CC will be the preferred way to go. With HD content and two tuners, I'll have the same functionality (with HD to boot) as my old DirectTivo. Will this box have two tuners in it?

    For now, I'm using the Motorola DVR and it works OK. But it's not a Tivo, and my wife reminds of this every time she uses it.

  10. Aug 24, 2006 #70 of 166

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

    Mar 3, 2002
    Yes, the S3 is dual-tuner.
  11. Oct 3, 2006 #71 of 166

    bager7 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    I just got Fios installed, but cannot get it to work with my TiVo. I went out and bought an IR Blaster, but TiVo says they need the IR-Code for the Motorola 2500-2 to make it work.

    You guys that have your blasters working, what code did you use?
  12. Oct 4, 2006 #72 of 166

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    Pick a Motorola STB in the 2000 series. They all use the same IR codes.
  13. Dec 31, 2006 #73 of 166

    dorius New Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    I have just upgraded to an HDTV and HD FIOS and have the following components:
    1. TV reception through FIOS HD box that has 1 composite, 1 component, 1 HDMI and 1 S video outlets
    2. Standard TIVO -series2 with 2 composite, 1 S video, RF In and RF Out outlets
    3. VCR recorder/DVD player combo with 2 composite, 1 component, 1 S video, and 1 Digital Audio Out PCM/Bitstream Optical outlets
    4. HDTV with 2 composite, 2 component, 1 HDMI and 1 S video outlets.

    The current cables and connections are:

    1. HDMI cable from FIOS box to TV.
    2. Composite cables from FIOS box to TIVO
    3. Composite cables from TIVO to TV
    4. Coaxial cable from TV to RF In TIVO
    5. Coaxial cable from RF Out TIVO to In/ant VCR/DVD

    What are the best cables to use to improve the picture on my TV?

    Also is it possible to set these connections up two ways - one running from FIOS - TIVO - TV and another from FIOS - VCR - TV? I am concerned that I am not getting the best picture quality under the current set up since I have an HDTV and HD FIOS as well as a series 2 TIVO. I love my TIVO but am not willing to buy a $700 HD TIVO.
  14. Dec 31, 2006 #74 of 166

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

    Apr 25, 2006
    I just have to say I skimmed through this entire thread right now and this is the thread that never dies. It was brought back to life so many time.
  15. Dec 31, 2006 #75 of 166

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

    May 24, 2002
    When you use "composite" above, do you mean audio and video? Good--otherwise no sound.

    When you use "composite" above, do you mean a yellow video cable or an S-Video cable? The latter is better quality.

    Remove both of those Coax cables--4 & 5. #4 is backwards--from an "in" to another "in". #5 is duplicative and lower quality than your either composite or S-Video.
  16. Dec 31, 2006 #76 of 166

    eric2000000 New Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    Just had FIOS installed with a Motorola QIP 2500-3 in eastern MA. I had the same serial port issue described in the previous threads. I ran setup again on my series 2 Tivo using the IR cable and was successful in getting the Tivo to change channel on the cable box.
  17. Dec 31, 2006 #77 of 166

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

    May 24, 2002
    So does FIOS support cablecards and the series 3 or not?

    Oh--apparently it does, according to the S3 FAQ:
    Can anyone with it working confirm that?
  18. Dec 31, 2006 #78 of 166

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

    Apr 25, 2006
    I know you can rent cable cards from Verizon so don't see why not.
  19. Jan 6, 2007 #79 of 166

    dmbfan36_23 Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Woburn, MA
    I just had FiOS TV installed in Marlboro today and I got a cable card for my HDTV. They started offering cable cards this week.
  20. Jan 27, 2007 #80 of 166

    Atomic409 Tivo Noobie

    Jan 27, 2007
    North Dallas
    Hi, north dallas TIVO newbie here. I hope you can help with this.

    Can't get any of my TIVOs to control the channel on Verizon FiOS boxes.

    I have 2500-1 and 2500-3 boxes and tivos 24004A and 24008A and neither tivo will control any of the 2500 boxes I have.

    Please tell me what codes work to control the 2500 boxes.

    I've tried codes 10005, 10006, 10019, 10032, 10035, 10042, and 10046.

    Please help!

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