Tivo Vox boxes launch/available October 29th

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  1. Oct 24, 2017 #21 of 852
    krkaufman

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    How about "Watch Iron Fist on Netflix"?

    And, agreed, thanks for popping-in to post, and for any insights you can provide.
     
  2. Oct 24, 2017 #22 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    The blue button sends a unique button code. We programmed this into the latest version of our gen3 experience (aka Encore) in order to recognize a case where you are running earlier software with a new remote. In this scenario, the Hydra upgrade app launches when the blue button is pushed. So, if you have a Roamio or BOLT device now and want voice, here is what you do:

    0. Wait until 10/29
    1. Force a connection to the service to make sure you have version 20.7.4
    2. Buy a VOX remote ($39.99 for BOLT, $44.99 for Roamio).
    3. Setup and pair the remote to your box
    4. Press the voice button on the remote which *should* launch the upgrade app
    5. Go through the steps to request the upgrade
    6. Force a call to get the upgrade
    7. Reboot to install the upgrade
    8. Start using voice
     
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  3. Oct 24, 2017 #23 of 852
    sfhub

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    Maybe they need to add "always listening mode"

    Pony Skip
    Pony Rewind
     
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  4. Oct 24, 2017 #24 of 852
    sfhub

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    For people that use Universal Remotes is there an IR version of this code or is it RF only?
     
  5. Oct 24, 2017 #25 of 852
    krkaufman

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    This will be true for Roamio and pre-Vox Mini boxes that would need the new VOX Remote to first be paired via the Bluetooth dongle, as well?
     
  6. Oct 24, 2017 #26 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    Your TiVo is named Pony? :)
     
  7. Oct 24, 2017 #27 of 852
    sfhub

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    Ode to TiVoPony :)
     
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  8. Oct 24, 2017 #28 of 852
    Mikeguy

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    See above--yep, Hydra launches Sunday. :) And pressing the voice button on the Vox remote will launch a Hydra update if your box has the latest (non-Hydra) software (see above).
     
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  9. Oct 24, 2017 #29 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    Okay, let me take your MINI questions in 2 parts - first with existing MINI's, here is what happens with a 2k MINI. This behavior occurs regardless of whether you have a voice remote for the MINI:

    2k MINI with gen3 connects to a DVR (Roamio or BOLT) running gen4 - MINI will tell you it needs to upgrade to gen4 in order to connect. You agree, and it upgrades itself. You don't agree, and you cannot connect. Once the MINI upgrades to gen4, you can connect as before, but you won't have voice features on the MINI unless you buy a voice remote.

    2k MINI with gen4 then tries to connect to a DVR (Premiere, Roamio or BOLT) running gen3 - MINI will tell you it needs to downgrade to gen3 in order to connect. You agree, and it downgrades itself. You don't agree, and you cannot connect. If you have a voice remote, it will still work with the MINI running gen3, but the voice button will not do anything.

    This does create a bit of a headache for someone with a MINI and both a Premiere XL and a Roamio or BOLT who wants to use voice.
     
  10. Oct 24, 2017 #30 of 852
    Mikeguy

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    Would be nice--but then a power/battery issue, absent a separate remote cradle using AC power, into which the remote could be placed (which, personally, I think would be a great idea--essentially, an Amazon Tap setup)?
     
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  11. Oct 24, 2017 #31 of 852
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    I'm in for a pre-order for the 4k mini.
    I have no interest in any voice options.
    I am interested in the 4k output.
    I currently have a Roamio, several Premiers, and 2 minis.
     
  12. Oct 24, 2017 #32 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    Here is what happens with a 4k MINI VOX. This unit ships with the same VOX Remote that is included with the BOLT VOX.

    4K MINI VOX with gen4 connects to a DVR (Roamio or BOLT) running gen4 - Life is good.

    4K MINI VOX with gen4 tries to connect to a Premiere DVR running gen3 - MINI VOX will tell you it needs to downgrade to gen3 in order to connect. You agree, and it downgrades itself. You don't agree, and you cannot connect. The voice remote will still work with the MINI VOX running gen3, but the voice button will not do anything. 4K apps will still work in this configuration. You basically have a 2K MINI with 4K app support. If you never want voice, I guess you could buy a non-voice BOLT remote as an accessory to use in this case.

    4K MINI with gen4 tries to connect to a DVR (Roamio or BOLT) running gen3 - MINI will tell you it needs to downgrade to gen3 in order to connect, or you need to upgrade your host DVR to gen4. At this point you either go down the Premiere path above (downgrading) or the gen4 upgrade path from my prior post.
     
  13. Oct 24, 2017 #33 of 852
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    Will the Vox support HDR or Dolby Vision? I have a Roamio Pro, which I'm quite happy with. I've found that HDR makes a noticeable difference on my new OLED TV, so I've switched to watching streaming apps on my TV. Availability of this feature on the Vox would make me more likely to upgrade.
     
  14. Oct 24, 2017 #34 of 852
    JoeKustra

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    An extension to the mixed mode, which I think you explained fine. I have two Roamio boxes. I want to put Hydra on one, and its Mini. I also want to NOT put gen 4 on the other Roamio. Will the programs still be available to either Roamio without any upgrade or downgrade problem? It seems gen 4 is a UI issue, so I don't think there should be a problem, but I want to be sure. Thanks.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2017 #35 of 852
    rcompton

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    So I am just seeing some of this new info: Guessing the only difference in the Vox Bolt remote and the Vox remote for the older boxes is the bluetooth dongle? I already have a BT dongle/remote, and would like to go ahead and pre-order (and the Roamio version is not listed anywhere). Thanks!
     
  16. Oct 24, 2017 #36 of 852
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Semi-softball questions. :)

    What is your impression of Hydra so far, in general, compared to Encore?

    Would you say Hydra is in its mostly final form, or will it continue to evolve in much the same way it took Encore a while to complete?
     
  17. Oct 24, 2017 #37 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    If you're referring to the dongle that came with the slide remote, that is an RF4CE dongle, not a Bluetooth dongle. The Roamio version will be up shortly and they will be available at the same time.
     
  18. Oct 24, 2017 #38 of 852
    rcompton

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    Ah, thanks.
     
  19. Oct 24, 2017 #39 of 852
    ajwees41

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    I'm guessing the webpage will be like the priority update page where we could signup and get the latest software update. I wish they just had a checkbox in the account area of the Tivo my account page.for software upgrades.

    will the Tivo upgrade and downgrade apps that came with 20.7.4 then be enabled when the software update is ready for the boxes, how soon after it's requested via the webpage should users expect to beable to download it? also I'm guessing the upgrade should not delete recorded shows, but if downgrade is used the box will be like brand new?
     
  20. Oct 24, 2017 #40 of 852
    TiVo_Ted

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    Softball, or entrapment? :p

    Our new experience is by no means "done". It is a dramatic enhancement over what we had in the Spring in Spain, but we have a lot more work to do. Our goal during beta testing has been to get to stability/reliability and to understand areas where existing customers who upgrade might feel like it was more of a downgrade to the experience. I would expect that we will continue to roll out enhancements to the UI on a quarterly basis for a while.

    The voice function runs as a real-time web service, so it will be enhanced on a much more frequent basis.
     

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