Tivo Vox boxes launch/available October 29th

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  1. TiVo_Ted

    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely! These seem to be the key things you *need* far-field in order to do. Your hands are busy and you need to pause, replay, ff/rew, skip commercials, change channels, switch tuners, etc. IMO, some things will be so frustrating with far-field that you're going to want the remote.
     
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    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, not at this time.
     
  3. TiVo_Ted

    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    Somebody might still have the same question I'm sure. The answer is that the VOX Remote does not include learning capabilities.
     
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    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    I could see us adding voice to the slide remote, but as of now I don't believe we have any plans to do that. I guess you'd get backlight with that as well.
     
  5. Mikeguy

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    Love that backlighting, as well as learning capability! Just call it the Slide Pro Uber Vox remote, covering all functionality! :)
     
  6. innocentfreak

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    Not at all, but I see no harm in mentioning it.

    I definitely second his points. If Plex worked like MRS when it came to FF or REW, I would be fine with it, but MRS has spoiled me on how I expect trickplay to work on streamed content. If it doesn't work like that, I don't bother with streaming.

    Definitely check it out though unfortunately we lost a major feature with some TiVo server changes. I would also suggest KMTTG. It makes managing multiple TiVos much simpler. I definitely wouldn't have more than one TiVo without it.
     
  7. chrishicks

    chrishicks Tivo Junkie

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    I remember a time way, way back when just dialing a number and speaking to the person on the other end was a thing. Now we need voice to text conversion to use our phones to speak to others. ;)

    *I'm just poking fun because I have family who will send me paragraphs of text when they could literally call me and be done with the conversation in a minute or two.
     
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  8. jgolden

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    Ted, Since I can not try Hydra interface without loosing all recorded shows, I too was hoping to use the Mini to explore the new interface before committing to it. If I can't use the mini, I guess I will have to go to best buy next week and play with their demo unit so I don't destroy my recordings.
     
  9. mvalpreda

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    Just pre-ordered a Mini Vox from Amazon. I checked and my Roamio Pro is on 20.7.4.RC2-840-6-840.....am I ready for Hydra? :)
     
  10. tim_m

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    Both my Roamio and mini are up to date and ready too. I wasn't sure if the mini had 20.7.4 yet until i checked it today.
     
  11. mvalpreda

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    I do have 2x Roamio Pros.....so I will update my 'spare' one and see how it goes and see how the Mini Vox does.
     
  12. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Your Roamio Pro is, anyway.

    You know that the Roamio Pro will need to be upgraded to Hydra/gen4 to service the Mini VOX running Hydra, right? And that reversing the Roamio to gen3 requires a factory reset?

    p.s. Though you could keep the Roamio Pro at 20.7.4 and downgrade the Mini Vox to gen3, instead. If not quite ready to commit.


    p.p.s. Ah, nevermind.
     
  13. Nak

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    Absolutely!

    I'm really surprised that you guys have no plans to do that. Look at how much Logitech charges for a Harmony remote... Take the VOX remote, add a slide, add learning capability to some of the buttons, add 4 "extra" buttons that we could program for whatever, include back-lighting and charge $149. The profit margin would have to be a LOT higher than the $40 VOX remote you're selling now... You'd sell a ton of them too. I know I'd pre-order that. I have the latest Harmony, but the Tivo remote is just plain more intuitive to use. The Harmony is fine in my theater where I'm controlling like a dozen different devices, but in the family room or bedroom I'd much prefer a more capable Tivo remote--and I'd pay well for it too.

    Just saying...
     
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  14. eherberg

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    It's likely that 'tons' of sales in the remote control world still doesn't equal a whole lot in the big scheme of things. Harmony, for example, doesn't exactly show up near the top of the stack of slides when preparing a PowerPoint during quarterly results. Looking at Q2 results - Harmony made money, but it still finished at the bottom of the various Logitech categories. Hell - even webcams finished with a higher Q2 number. :)
     
  15. eherberg

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    It does depend on how it is implemented. I became a convert for voice control after house-sitting for a friend of mine who had the Kinect. It enabled complete voice control over any item or option that was available on the screen - through any app available. After familiarizing myself with the commands - I became a believer when I was sitting in the dark with complete control. I could bring up the guide ... scroll or page up or down ... control channels, volume ... bring up Plex, Netflix, Hulu ... make selections ... control playback, etc. In 4 days, I didn't have to touch a remote once.

    In my own home environment - we're using the Plex controls available with Alexa, but it does have missing gaps notably at the start and end of a TV viewing session. The rumored Fire TV boxee-looking (for those who remember the once-great Boxee) device with it's built-in Alexa and IR blaster could be a step towards competing in that area.

    The point being - aspects of far-field don't necessarily have to be frustrating - and hopefully more work is being done by others to sand off the rough edges and work towards feature-complete implementation.
     
  16. Mikeguy

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    Whoa there, Sparky--$149?! Given that it essentially simply would be the Slide Pro with voice added, and given TiVo's pricing of its various remotes, I would think that it should be no more than $10 or so more than the current Slide Pro remote.
     
  17. CubsWin

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    This may be a dumb question, but why would the 3 TB version not support OTA? Aren't they basically the same box with difference sized hard drives?
     
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  18. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    No. TiVo stupidly (IMO) dropped the BOLT+ moniker for the VOX line, creating the situation you now face. Just be glad you noticed, rather than ordering and awaiting shipment of a 3TB OTA-capable BOLT VOX, only to find it's CableCARD-only.

    p.s. Maybe the glass is half full, in that the Mini VOX wasn't released as the 0TB BOLT VOX.
     
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  19. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Was merging the CableCARD-only 3TB unit and the 2 OTA/CC units all under the same "BOLT VOX" name intentional?

    Did no one see the possible confusion and order errors that would result, especially with the choice between all 3 models being a simple hard drive capacity selection on Amazon?

    For example:

    Why not BOLT+ VOX for the 3TB unit? Or at least a distinct SKU and ordering page, making the difference clear.
     
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  20. m.s

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    Not supporting OTA isn't because of the storage capacity, it's because of the difference in tuners (6 vs 4 channels). I can only guess that TiVo couldn't find a 6 channel tuner which supported ATSC when they did the high end model.
     
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