Tivo Upgrade problems - please help!

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by dschwarz, Jan 10, 2006.

  1. dschwarz

    dschwarz New Member

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    Here are the details. Hope someone can help.

    I have a Tivo Series 2 (Model 140060). This was originally a 60GB unit, when the original drive failed (in 2004) I replaced the drive with a new 120GB drive from Weaknees.

    Now the replacement drive is starting to fail (freezes every day or two), so I thought I'd backup and replace the drive myself.

    I bought a new Western-Digital Hard Drive WD1600JBRTL (160GB), downloaded the Weaknees MFSTools 2.0 Boot CD with LBA48 support and started to follow the instructions at tivo.upgrade-instructions(dot)com

    I figure that because I'm already running on 7.1 or above, I have LBA48 support in my existing Tivo kernel, so the 160GB drive should be supported, right?

    1) Backed up existing drive to backup.bak file. Worked OK. Said that I had a 59 hour image, already upgraded to 113 hours.

    2) Attempted to copy existing drive to new drive using mfsbackup/mfsrestore:

    mfsbackup -f 9999 -1so - /dev/hdd | mfsrestore -s 127 -r 4 -zxpi - /dev/hdb

    where /dev/hdd is my old Tivo drive and /dev/hdb my new drive

    Completed successfully.

    3) Installed the new drive in the Tivo and powered it on:

    Tivo displayed: "Powering Up..." then "Almost There..." then blank screen, reboot, repeat "Powering Up..." / "Almost There..." endlessly.

    4) Reinstalled my old drive in my Tivo and powered it on. Works OK (for now)

    Any suggestions as to how I can get my new drive to work properly? I'd like to do this myself if there is a simple solution, otherwise I am happy to pay for a tool like InstantCake, however I do not see that it supports LBA48 on my Tivo model.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. mick66

    mick66 Dirty Burger

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    A common mistake is to not jumper the new drive correctly when putting it in your Tivo.
     
  3. dschwarz

    dschwarz New Member

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    I had the drive set to "Cable Select" rather than "Master." I'll try setting it to "Master" when I get home tonight.

    Related note: The drive came with a new 80 pin IDE cable, and the WD instructions recommend using the 80 pin cable rather than the existing cable (in PC installations.) Should I be using the 80 pin IDE cable with the Tivo?

    Dan
     
  4. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi New Member

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    I would use the TiVo cable. I just put a in a 320gb WD last night, and it didn't like the drive until I removed the jumper completely. Even jumpered for "Master" it locked up, so give it a shot without the jumper first.
     
  5. dschwarz

    dschwarz New Member

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    Same behavior wtih the drive set to Master. I get "Powering Up..." followed by "Almost There..." screen followed by reboot and repeat the same cycle.

    Any ideas on what to do next would be greatly appreciated. I just want to get the new drive up and running, using all 160GB. If I can save my existing season passes, great, but if not, I'll live with that.

    Thanks,

    Dan
     
  6. welchomatic

    welchomatic New Member

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    I just thought I'd chip in.

    I have a S2 ...40 I got just before rewards 'upgraded' again, and shortly before my lifetime S1 pooped out. Repaired my S1, and attempted to put a 5400RPM 300Gb drive in my S2. I'm not serious about the S2, but would like the new Tivo to work well, as I am paying 6+ dollars a month for it.
    Since I am not critically interested in seeing this work, I didn't go any further than usint the free weeknees CD to -9999 copy the original 40 GB drive to the new and untouched 300Gb drive, and I am seeing the same problem. I know the 40Gb drive got the 7.1 software update, as I stayed up 2 hours to see it installed before I installed a 100BT USB the very next day.


    Looking forward to seeing a very simple answer,
    Welchomatic
     
  7. welchomatic

    welchomatic New Member

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    I just got inspired to take another whack at my series2. Since I was upgrading from 40G to 300G, I had thought it would be a good idea to set my swapspace to 350, so my mfsrestore HAD been mfsrestore -s 300 -r 4 -xzpi /dev/hdb. Just for kicks, since I don't get the GSOD, I thought I'd try mfsrestore -s 127 as all the literature says to do. It worked perfectly after that.
    So if I try to go for 600+ hours later, I'll be in trouble, should that GSOD ever show. I did get it once when adding netword capability to a friends S1.
     
  8. ronsch

    ronsch Active Member

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    You didn't really address whether you were trying to save your recordings or not. That would only be possible if you used a virgin image when you installed the 120. The command you used certainly wouldn't save them. I've never seen anyone pipe a compressed backup into a restore although I know of no reason why it shouldn't work. If you have a drive with a FAT32 partition you should really save a copy of the backup image. One other note, the -r 4 is only needed for drives > 250GB. Again, I know of no reason why it should cause a problem with a smaller drive. In my experience, TiVo's come with their single drives jumpered CS and that's the way all mine are running.
     
  9. DBowen

    DBowen New Member

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    Not to hijack the thread, but my problem is similar/worse. I used the same steps, minus the backup, just to copy my 40 hr drive to a 120 gig drive. When I put the new drive in, it starts booting up, goes to the almost there screen, then turns off, no real reboot. I have to unplug it to reboot it.

    I thought it was no big deal and that I'd try again later, so I put my original drive back in...and the same thing happens with it!! I don't care about the shows, I just want my tivo working again. Is there anything I might be able to do without buying a new harddrive w/ Tivo installed?
     
  10. HomeUser

    HomeUser Active Member

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    May be a long shot, If the tivo was in stand-by when you pulled the drive try turning it on with the TiVo button on the remote. Watch for the TiVo to respond to the remote with the lights?
     
  11. DBowen

    DBowen New Member

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    HomeUser...You are my Saving Grace!!!!!!!!! Thank You Thank You Thank You!!!!!!!!!!! The most simple thing :) :) :D
     

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