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  1. Bigg

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    Bundle and/or rotate and binge.

    I'm interested to see what the video quality looks like. Amazon's VQ is far better than HBO Go or many other services for the exact same content. I believe I read somewhere that Apple is hosting the content subscribed to through Apple TV Channels on their own CDN? Presumably that means they are encoding it themselves as well?
     
  2. NashGuy

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    Yes, Apple is encoding the content for Apple TV Channels and streaming it from their own servers. At least one report I've read so far says that Apple is using a similar bitrate for HBO on ATV Channels as Amazon uses for it on Prime Video Channels:

    post: Bit rate for an episode of Deadwood is ~10.5Mb/s. It had some sustained peaks of ~14Mb/s. HBO Now seems to run at ~6.5Mb/s.
    reply: Nice, so it's about on par with what's been reported about the Prime Video channel streams.

    Unfortunately, the poster quoted above didn't tell us whether Apple was encoding in MPEG-4 or HEVC.

    IIRC, one person somewhere posted that the Apple version looked better to their eye than the Amazon version (although I guess that one subjective data point is basically worthless).

    I've yet to subscribe to anything via ATV Channels but anticipate doing so at the end of June when Showtime premieres The Loudest Voice, their limited series about Fox News and Roger Ailes. After Escape from Dannemora and Patrick Melrose last year, they're on a roll with great limited series.
     
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    If I already subscribe to HBO and I want to change and subscribe through the Channels will it just cancel one and start the other? I think it's $5 cheaper through ATV Channels.
    Edit: OK, it looks like you have to cancel one and subscribe to the other.
     
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    Right. If you want to switch, you should go into your current HBO account (with Amazon, Roku or whomever) and cancel there. Since you prepaid for the current month, you'll still get service until the end of those 30 days, but cancelling now will keep your credit card from getting auto-charged on the first day of the next 30-day period. At that point, you can start a different HBO subscription through Apple TV Channels (first 7 days are free).

    BTW, if you have iTunes gift card money on your Apple account, it should use that as payment before charging your credit card on file. Every so often you'll see those iTunes gift cards (electronic ones with online delivery) on sale for 15-20% off. I bought $100 worth last Christmas for $80.
     
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    Providing you subscribe to the channel via an Apple TV or other Apple Device.



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  6. NashGuy

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    This surprises me a bit but it looks like the new Apple TV app on Samsung smart TVs allows users to initiate subscriptions to Apple TV Channels there.

    Apple TV app arrives on Samsung Smart TVs as Apple expands its services push

    So at least in that case, no Apple device is needed. However, I'll still be surprised if you can do that in the forthcoming Apple TV apps for Roku and Amazon Fire TV because both of those platforms already have similar "channels" initiatives that directly compete with Apple.

    It's possible that once Apple rolls out the app on those platforms, they let Roku and Fire TV users sign up for Apple TV Channels somewhere on Apple.com (the same way that I can add Prime Video Channels to my Prime subscription at Amazon.com and then stream that content inside the Prime Video app on my Apple TV, even though I can't do the sign up inside that app). We'll see...
     
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    Yep, it appears so.

    This video shows it right in hand....


    That’s good news for Apple. They must have been able to leverage their $1B settlement and also set this as a standard with the other tv manufacturers.

    Having Apple Play 2 support is the big one. With that, one wouldn’t need to bother with adding an actual Apple TV device unless they want to use other apps or games.




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  8. Bigg

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    Yeah, we'll have to see. It's hard to imagine something better than Amazon, as their video looks really nice subjectively to me, but again, it's subjective. Hopefully someone at AVSForum will do an extensive side-by-side comparison. Apparently Apple has a pretty robust CDN. I know Amazon has a really good CDN position with ISPs, since half the internet runs on AWS.

    Yeah, Showtime is doing a lot of the miniseries and documentaries that HBO isn't doing much of these days. HBO is in trouble with Veep and GoT ending, and not much going on anywhere else in their lineup.
     
  9. NashGuy

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    I'm the one weirdo who didn't watch GoT but will pick up HBO soon to watch the new season of Big Little Lies, ha! Also can't wait to catch season 2 of Barry plus the current miniseries Chernobyl. Their new trailer for this fall's The Watchmen looks pretty great...
     
  10. mschnebly

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    Chernobyl is really good.
     
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  11. Bigg

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    I didn't watch GoT, but I watch John Oliver religiously. That was a smart move, they'd be in far worse shape without him. I want to watch that Chernobyl miniseries too.
     

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