TiVo to return to the UK

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by craig@rewind, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. Jun 7, 2006 #21 of 135
    Pugwash

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    I emailed T3 magazine last month when they put Sky+ in their hall of fame. :D Pointed out the TiVo was there first. :up:
     
  2. Jun 7, 2006 #22 of 135
    andyjenkins

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    I thought about this too, but queried if they would have too? Surely they could work off the 4TV EPG ? That would be one less headache they would have to live with, the consumer would understand it better (ie not having to have a second EPG source), and could potentially even loose the remit for the monthly subscription model that could spoil this whole game plan.

    Saying that, even 4tv has its limited (nightly download etc etc) so it would still not catch late ammendments to programming schedule.
     
  3. Jun 7, 2006 #23 of 135
    steveroe

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    I don't know the details of what 4TV offer, but unless it includes the metadata that powers TiVo (OAD, episode ids) then it would still need to be enhanced (this is what we pay the sub for).
     
  4. Jun 7, 2006 #24 of 135
    cwaring

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    So this 4TV service, which I've actually never heard of by the way, is 100% accurate 100% of the time is it? :) (Plus steve's point ;))
     
  5. Jun 7, 2006 #25 of 135
    mrtickle

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    I've used a DigiFusion DVR for a while (now relaunched as Sony SVR-S500, but made by Beko in Turkey. Instantly screams "not Sony build quality" so beware). It used that data. You get start/stop times, date and a synopsis. Genre too maybe.

    SPs wouldn't work properly without a unique Episode ID for each episode*; FRO needs an OAD for each episode, but more importantly Suggestions need the genres and actors. As it is one of the biggest selling points of the Tivo service there is no way they could use anything other than Tribune data at the moment.

    * we take it for granted now but the 1.5.2 software used before Easter 2002 didn't have the 28-day rule. Tons of duplicates everywhere, many needlessly stopped other programmes being recorded; a nightmare compared to these days!
     
  6. Jun 7, 2006 #26 of 135
    Mark Bennett

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    Freeview is not available in my area either - and probably never will be :(
    I'm lead to believe the radar installations around Farnborough totally screw the signal. (Analogue TV is no good either - everyone here either has NT-HeLL or $ky...)
     
  7. Jun 7, 2006 #27 of 135
    iankb

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    I think that it's fairly obvious that TiVo cut the payment to Tribune as an economy measure that would enable to the UK service to continue. I think that they would be stupid not to improve the service if they wanted to start expanding the UK customer base.

    As to marketing it correctly, Sky have done most of the work for them. Forget the "Press pause and make a cup of tea" approach. All they need to say now is "It's like Sky+ but's much, much, better". However, maybe they shouldn't get Sky to do the marketing this time round. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Jun 7, 2006 #28 of 135
    6022tivo

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    I don't have any issues with the Media Centre EPG I get for free.

    It works very well for season passes and works well if I allow it to record a series that may have repeats on a different channel in case of a conflict. (i.e. set a CH4 series to record and it will record an episode from E4 if the Ch4 one conflicts)... I don't think TiVo can do this?, can it??

    Who does/provides the Media Centre EPG??
     
  9. Jun 8, 2006 #29 of 135
    ndunlavey

    ndunlavey Just a user, really

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    Something annoying about the PVRs that use the 4TV data is that you're shagged if you can't receive the multiplex that 4TV is on.
     
  10. Jun 8, 2006 #30 of 135
    peteypete

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    I don't live in the UK, but what's freeview, and how do you think the tivo interface would be integrated into freeview set top boxes?

    Also, how many boxes are out there? And do they have a broadband connection too?
     
  11. Jun 8, 2006 #31 of 135
    cwaring

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    www.freeview.co.uk Basically, it's a digital replacement for the current analogue terrestrial service. No, they aren't broadband-connected. EPG data is received over-the-air.
     
  12. Jun 8, 2006 #32 of 135
    AENG

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    I get my EPG data via a telephone line, AFAIK. Or are you referring to something completely different?
     
  13. Jun 8, 2006 #33 of 135
    AENG

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    Oops! Spoke too soon. You're outside the strictly TiVo regime, of course.
     
  14. Jun 8, 2006 #34 of 135
    iankb

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    We know that TiVo want to come back into this country, and were seen at a UK exhibition a year or so ago with the obvious intention of finding a manufacturer. However, this thread may be speculation based upon that knowledge, rather than based upon a firm agreement between TiVo and a volume manufacturer.

    As I perceive it, manufacturers have either been reluctant to accept TiVo's terms, or have not been able to manufacture, finance or market the sort of volumes that TiVo would expect before they committed themselves to longer-term support.

    If it is a genuinely accurate piece of news (and I really hope that it is), it seems a strange way to release it.
     
  15. Jun 8, 2006 #35 of 135
    terryeden

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    terryeden

    terryeden TiVo, Tivum, Tiva,

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    Sorry to put a downer on everyone - but I just called Decipher. While they are monitoring what TiVo are doing in the US, they have absolutley no news about any UK activities.

    I suspect that someone was talking about the new Freeview PVR scheme and its possible implications for TiVo which got translated to "new box coming out soon".

    I'd love it to be true - but I'm not getting my hopes up.

    Of course - the guys at Decipher could have been bs'ing me..... :)

    T
     
  17. Jun 8, 2006 #37 of 135
    Anndra

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    Terry. Please go lifetime.
     
  18. Jun 8, 2006 #38 of 135
    Glen

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    Well if it is true then i'm very disappointed that they wont release one for use with Sky! Glad i got a lifetime as it looks as if i'll be with my current TiVo for years to come!
     
  19. Jun 8, 2006 #39 of 135
    ndunlavey

    ndunlavey Just a user, really

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  20. Jun 8, 2006 #40 of 135
    mrtickle

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    It certainly can (surprised you didn't know!). Either have a Wishlist, or an E4 SP as well as a C4 SP.

    Tribune - which is why it works in Media Centre as well as TiVo; their listings have the rich metadata to make this sort of functionality possible.
     

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