TIVO Takeover?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by PaperFriend, Jul 2, 2011.

  1. rahnbo

    rahnbo Well-Known Member

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    Counting station logos as ads? That's absurd. You made the case for Tivo as a billboard in your own statement. You listed 3 common places ads are found in the SDUI. I'll add the .99 Amazon Sale on Tivo Central that has been there several days and cycles out to car ads, travel ads, etc. You can ignore them. Correction, you notice them, then you ignore them. Great.
     
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Two of my coworkers were complaining yesterday about the ads on their Comcast DVR. When they are looking at the guide, there will be an ad at the bottom of the guide. If they page down it avoids the ad but if they go downne show at a time(which they said the like to do) it always goes down to the ad on the bottom and it will open it up.

    I'm glad the TiVo does nothing like that.would be really annoying if the ads on the TiVo were in your face like that on the TiVo. But for me, it is rare for me to even notice any advertising on the TiVo. And when I do it's typically something that interests me that has caught my eye for some reason.
     
  3. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I can close my eyes and block my ears every time a commercial comes on too. It doesn't make it any less annoying.

    Personally, I don't mind the ads on Tivo but I can understand why some would.
     
  4. rahnbo

    rahnbo Well-Known Member

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    I was speaking to someone else who said they could ignore them. I find them annoying.
     
  5. Grappa

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    I'd even say more: they should become illegal as they violate my right of leisure =)
     
  6. bricketh

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    I may be in the minority, but with TiVo pushing to Rogers, Suddenlink and Cox (along with smaller service providers), I can see TiVo becoming the DVR of choice for many consumers for not much more than you would pay for their own DVR. If they prove popular enough, they may even become the primary DVR solution. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I think that is where TiVo's business model is at (or should be at).

    I have bought and owned TiVos since 2000, and have had lifetime on each and everyone one, so I know I'm not their target audience... Monthly subscribers are, however. Once TiVo hits with their Premiere Q and Preview boxes with streaming, I believe they will become a force again via the cable operators instead of retail. They may maintain a retail leg with their existing price model (which feels a lot like a DVR rental more than a purchase, anyway, aside from the initial investment), but I feel like their best bet to turn profitable and sustaining is to move more to the cable companies, and out of heavy retail (which is what they have been doing).

    The Comcast experiment with the TiVo software on SA DVR hardware was their first real step in that direction, as far as I know (outside of DirecTV), but I'm not sure how that turned out or whether it is still available... I didn't like that then, and don't like it now (though I have never used one of those versions, just read about them). If they can get TWC and Comcast to leverage their TiVo Premiere boxes as premium DVRs with the streaming capabilities (assuming they can get Netflix and Hulu+ on the rental units), that would be essentially fulfilling their desire to be the 'one box'.

    They still have much work to do on the UI, but I think the hardware itself is fine. Maybe it requires a complete overhaul on the system, which I have seen Cable Companies do in staged rollouts with great (though crappy-looking) success. If they can get enough hardware to the market, they could essentially focus on just updating/maintaining (and hopefully replacing) the software for several years, and allow the cable companies to keep the existing Premiere (and Q) hardware long enough to make it worth while.

    It seems that is their goal, and they won't do much, if anything retail in the future, but I think it makes good business sense. I don't like that approach as a user that prefers his lifetime service, but I don't think they are doing it for us, I think they are doing it to become more mainstream and maybe (finally) become the dominate DVR/media device in homes. I don't think it's a given that they will be sold... I could, however, see the ads remaining, and maybe being a tad more prominent, but I'm like others on here that said they see them but aren't bother by them now. I don't like Google returning an ad link at the top of their search either, but they put the nice pale yellow box to indicate it as such, and move on. Again, noticed, but not bothersome to me.

    I may be way off on TiVo's direction, but these are my thoughts...
     
  7. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    That's the problem. They haven't proven popular enough. Comcast has been offering a Tivo in the Boston market for three years. It wasn't popular. Pretty everyone I know has Comcast and nobody I know has a Comcast Tivo. (except my Mom because I talked her into it.)

    People preferred the Comcast DVR because they don't know what Tivo is.
     
  8. SMWinnie

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    My understanding is that the ComcasTiVo DVR flopped with experienced TiVo users as well. (Bad port to the 6412; didn't feel like a TiVo, etc.)
     
  9. bschuler2007

    bschuler2007 Frustrated owner

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    AOL is gonna buy Tivo is an all stock deal. (joking... but ya know somewhere a Time Warner board member is crying).
     
  10. bricketh

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    I don't count the Comcast TiVo as the same category with the Premieres that are offered now. That was a poor execution of the idea, and I think TiVo learned from that to stick with using their own solution, and leveraging that for the cablecos.
     
  11. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    the hardware Comcast wanted to use simply sucked. The software never worked on the hardware, It was indeed a total box of fail but it was all performance and functionality related versus a bad idea in itself.

    If Comcast had simply gone with TiVo Hardware it would have been a very different story
     
  12. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I disagree about the hardware being bad. I had one of these units for a while and my mom has had one since Comcast started offering it. After a couple of early software updates the unit itself works just fine and it can access On Demand content.

    Of course, it lacks many other features.

    The thing is that people had no idea that what they were getting wasn't a "real Tivo." They just weren't interested because they didn't know what Tivo was. They still don't and I don't think offering Premieres by cable companies will make a huge difference unless the cable company really pushes them on people.
     
  13. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I agree. I've always felt cable was all "HERE'S OUR DVR! BTW we also have TiVo, but you don't want one of those because it doesn't have _____, and it costs a little more".
    The cable companies are going to have to start offering Tivos as standard equipment for it to have any impact (IMO).
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I didn't even think about the cost. NOBODY calls the cable company and wants to pay MORE. I would imagine it's a tough sell. I don't ever recall hearing of any promotions.
     
  15. Johncv

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    The way things are going Virginmedia may buy out TiVo. God I want this box, too bad it only in the UK. :mad:

    The new ads are good:

    http://tivo.virginmedia.com/
     
  16. johnner1999

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    I would have said in a hartbeat Cisco would buy TiVo; but that was then and this is now in the post Cisco love of CE products.
     
  17. bricketh

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    I think people would pay a little more for the ability to have a DVR that does more than just Record TV. The access to Amazon and Blockbuster, along with the normal On Demand programming, can help sway people, I think. The cost can't be $30 per month vs $6.95, but if it is the difference of $5, that may make it worth while.

    I may not be the norm, but I am renting my Premiere, even though I have always owned my TiVos over the years with lifetime service. I am happy to pay $12.95 per month for it for it, not having to pay extra for a cable card, having access to on demand services, and not worrying if it breaks or if I want to get out of it in a year or two for something newer.
     
  18. johnner1999

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    ditto - if my cable co offered me a real tivo by tivo ;-) I would pay $35 a month for two of them!
     
  19. tzroberts

    tzroberts New Member

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    I wish TiVo would be the ones to have over either Boxee or Roku.
     
  20. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    "adequate"

    "isn't too bad"

    You should call Microsoft...they probably need a marketing guy.
     

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