TiVo SW for Mac OSX

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by zerdian1, May 2, 2015.

Which MAC OS X SW do you prefer for TiVo?

Poll closed Jun 1, 2015.
  1. Mac user who use TiVo Desktop for MAC?

    14.3%
  2. Mac user who use pyTiVo for MAC?

    57.1%
  3. Mac user who use cTiVo for Mac?

    42.9%
  4. Mac user who use some other TiVo Sw for MAC?

    14.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. zerdian1

    zerdian1 Roamio PRO, Roamio,

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    I have all the videos (Movies and TV Shows) installed on a sub-folders of Movies folder.
    the folder is specified in cTiVo and cTiVo shows the videos to be transferred, the folder where they will go after downloaded from TiVo and the format they will be converted to.
    in my case it is Users/George/Movies/TiVoShows.
    And I currently have 250 TiVoShows
    I also specified the format YouTube,
    which is the only format that I have gotten to work.
    And it turns out this format plays back very easily.



     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2015
  2. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    The concern I had was that in Tivo Desktop (TDT) you could playback the recordings made by TDT using the Tivo on screen GUI's. This is not possible in cTivo since cTivo does not attempt to mimic a Tivo (as in pyTivo) that allows video streams to be pulled from the computer hard drive. Just the other day I had this confirmed by the Hugh Mackworth of cTivo on GitHub.
    "Ah, sending a show back to TiVo. Yes, you can do that using pyTiVo. It's a
    little tricky to install, but after you do, if you enable the pytivo option
    for a recording in cTiVo, we record all the metadata in a parallel text file
    for it, and then you simply point pyTiVo at the directories where you store
    your video. Then pyTiVo pretends to be a TiVo so other tiVos can pull the
    shows over."

    Thank you all the same for your suggestions. Right now I will be using cTivo to retrieve the shows from my Tivo, and then add them to the iTunes library. I will then watch them using Apple TV in the H.264 medium quality video format.

    Charles
     
  3. zerdian1

    zerdian1 Roamio PRO, Roamio,

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    cTiVo Problem:
    I transferred 250 TiVo videos a few months ago to my Mac and now the status has changed to ?.
    I can no longer play them.
    Anaone have any suggestions.
     
  4. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    @zerdian. Sorry for delay. Where is the status showing as "?"?

    And how are you trying to play them? Are they visible in the Finder?
     
  5. zerdian1

    zerdian1 Roamio PRO, Roamio,

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    mackworth,
    The first column in cTiVo Download Queue is the sequence number. I have about 250 videos.
    the second column is the Status. all the videos now have a ? in the status column.
    I downloaded the videos a few months ago so I could watch them while I was traveling this summer when not connected to the internet.
    At this point I am not sure if they expired or if they do not work when not on my home internet.
    I will see in a few weeks when I get home.

    I was trying to play them unsuccessfully from cTiVo app.
    They are in my movies file folder.
    And they play fine.
    george
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2015
  6. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    The ? simply means that we didn't find them when connecting to the TiVo; so if you run cTiVo when you're away from home (and don't go through the somewhat tricky exercise of remote access), then they will all show as ? as we can't currently see the tivo. They should all be playable through anyways, and any incomplete downloads will "reconnect" with the TiVo information when you return.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2015
  7. backspaces

    backspaces New Member

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    Just a quick note: I recently upgraded to the most recent iMac and installed the pyTivoX-1.3b with no difficulty. I believe it needed me to allow its use due to the usual security restrictions via the System Preferences.
     
  8. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    How easy was it to install pyTivo under OS X 10.10? I am currently using cTivo and viewing the recorded .MP4 videos with on the Mac screen or better still on my Apple TV supported by iTunes. It does make it slightly awkward to switch video sources on the TV away from my Tivo Roamio, but the quality is excellent.

    I understand that pyTivo mimics another Tivo so the show recordings can be viewed as another Tivo device.

    Charles
     
  9. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    That's exactly right, so all your videos can then be played back on the Tivo. It re-encodes them in real time as necessary depending on which tivo you have. It's a great program, and works really well.

    Installing it is just downloading the files, configuring where your video files are (in a configuration text file), and then running pytivo. If you point ctivo and pytivo to the same directory, then any shows downloaded will automatically be seen back again (turn on the metadata in ctivo to make sure all the show information makes the round trip).
     
  10. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    Where is the best site to download the files for pyTivo?
     
  11. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    First install ffmpeg: FFMPeg Mac Binary

    Secondly, download pyTiVo:
    Pytivo download

    Third, edit the pytivo.conf file in 3 places:

    1. ffmpeg= << full path to ffmpeg including filename>>
    2. [<<name of share, e.g. My Movies>>]
    3. path= <<full path to where your videos are stored, e.g. /Users/YOURNAME/Movies/TivoShows>>

    Then drag pytTivo.py onto /Applications/Utilities/Terminal to start PyTiVo.
    Look for any error messages and fix.
    Your TiVo should immediately show your Mac in the Now Playing list as well as all your videos in that folder.
    Tech support is handled in the pytivo thread on TivoCommunity Forum.
     
  12. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    Thank you very much.
     
  13. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    I have downloaded the pytivo-master feel but cannot see the file your reference, for editing, pytivo.conf.

    Has it been renamed?
     
  14. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    pyTivo.conf.dist (make a copy and rename that to just pyTivo.conf).
     
  15. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    Sorry, I thought it downloaded a sample one. You can edit pytivo.conf.dist, but that's vey complex and it's probably easier to create your own.

    If you create one in a text editor that just consists of "[Server]", then pyTivo should start, and you can use the webAdmin interface at http://localhost:9032/ to create the rest of it.

    See more detailed instructions here
     
  16. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    Again many thanks for your help.

    Charles
     
  17. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    Good points. Perhaps it'd be better to provide a simpler example conf file with pyTivo.
     
  18. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    I finally got pyTivo working: recording shows and allowing the Roamio to see all my recorded shows. After looking at the .dist config file i decide to use it. It was not difficult to understand. The most difficult part was outing the true pathname for my Tivo Show folder on my NAS. Yosemite has not made it easy. After many false starts, I finally resorted to advice on the Internet to make a Automator Service to copy the path name to the clip board. Only then was the true path name accepted by pyTivo for both the Tivo show folder and the address of the "ffmpeg" file.

    Q1: Is there a way to make the pyTivo respond to a start up request by click on an icon on the desktop?

    Q2: Is there an option to allow previously recored Shows in an .MP4 format to be downloaded in real time to the Tivo as .Tivo files?

    Q3: Is there a way to play the shows on the web interface on the computer? Currently a double click on the recored show on the NAS results in the message "there is no application."

    Again, thank you all for your help.

    Charles
     
  19. mackworth

    mackworth cTiVo Developer

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    Glad it's working well for you.

    Q1: Yes; right-click on pytivo.py and go to Open With>Other> then click "Always open with" and then navigate to Applications>Utilities>Terminal. That file will then open with Terminal and you should be good. Note that you can create an alias to that file and then move the alias to your desktop or Applications folder, wherever you like.

    Q2. Not quite sure what you mean. PyTiVo should be showing you the MP4 files on disk on your TiVo? They don't have to be converted to .TiVo files to do that.

    Q3 Not sure about "on the web interface", but otherwise Yes. If the Finder isn't associating your MP4 files on the NAS with Quicktime Player, then you'll want to do a similar process as Q1, but click on one of the files, use the GetInfo command. then in the "Open with" area, select QuickTime Player (or whatever player you like, e.g. VLC), and hit Change All. Try running another video to see if it worked.
     
  20. Chas_M

    Chas_M Member

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    Re Q2 - What I meant was this. I have large collection of .mp4 files on my NAS from the use of cTivo and pyTivo. Is there a way for me to play these files using my Roamio? Currently I use the integration of iTunes and apple TV to play these files. Can the Tivo provide a similar capability using pyTivo without the need to convert the files to .tivo format?

    Re Q3 - I was referring to the list of files shown by the webAdmin interface. Can I play the files listed on the computer? Also, is there a way to play a previously recorded/saved show with a .tivo extension on the computer, like I was able to do with Tivo Desktop?
     

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