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TiVo Stream FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by Dan203, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The transcoder chip supports 4 simultaneous streams. The transcoder in the standalone Stream and the one built into the Roamio are exactly the same.
     
  2. dobbie1

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    Does the stream use a tuner? Did not see this specifically stated in anything I have read. Sorry if this is not the right place to ask.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    No. Unlike a Mini the Stream can not borrow a tuner from the host TiVo. If you select something from the live guide to watch it will actually start a recording of that show on your TiVo and then stream that recording. Once that show is over it will stop and you will have to manually delete the recording it created. There is no true live TV mode for the Stream.
     
  4. fred-vo

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    Dan,
    My TiVo Stream has been noisy since I bought it over 6 months ago. Really noisy when the room is quiet. Is this normal? What can be done to eliminate/lessen the noise? My latest attempt is placing a piece of really-soft-foam weatherstripping tape on each corner foot.

    Also, I cannot find a spec that defines the normal operating temperature range. Mine varies from 37C-41C most of the time when the fan's not running, which is a lot of the time.
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The noise is the fan. My standalone stream was always noisy too. I found that it was less noisy if I placed it on it's side, rather then on all four feet. But it would still spool up every now and then, even when I wasn't using it, and drive me nuts.
     
  6. telemark

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    All the transcoder boxes have fans, most of them noisy.

    Since they can be anywhere on the network, I suggest you leave them somewhere without people and is cool. Basement or cool closet..
     
  7. Zonker007

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    I'm not able to connect the built-in stream on the Bolt to my Roamio OTA to allow streaming content from the Roamio to other devices. The stream was successfully connected on the iOS app for the bolt, but not for the Roamio OTA.

    Has this been a change to the built-in stream?

    Thanks,
     
  8. CoxInPHX

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    AFAWK, Yes, the Bolt Stream device is:
    • Currently limited to one stream to a device at a time (2nd simultaneous stream coming, later, says Ira at TiVo)
    • Currently limited to streaming just the content on the Bolt DVR only (no clue if this will change w/ a SW update)
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I updated the FAQ to reflect recent software updates and the Bolt capabilities.
     
  10. Restlessmonkey

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    Thanks for updating it!!
     
  11. moonscape

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    I have a Roamio Pro and Roamio Basic. Recently, I had to be away from home unexpectedly for 6 weeks and had only my iPad with me. I thought the Pro would be the only one I could watch, but my Basic showed up and I could watch shows from it and control it the same as I did with the Pro!

    Is this a recent change, or am I not understanding what the limitation for the Basic is?

    My setup at home works remarkably well, esp considering I'm wireless w/ no Moca. And, both in the hospital and rehab facility, I was able to stream from either box with only occasional glitches.
     
  12. Dan203

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    The hardware inside the Pro is exactly the same as a standalone Stream. It even gets it's own IP address from your network. And like a standalone Stream it can stream from any TiVo on your network. So having a Roamio Plus/Pro on your network is the same as having a standalone Stream.

    The Bolt however uses the Broadcom chipset to do the transcoding and currently only allows you to stream shows from it's own hard drive. So if you were to replace that Roamio Pro with a Bolt you'd no longer be able to stream from the Roamio Basic.
     
  13. krkaufman

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    Can a standalone (or the Plus/Pro built-in) Stream stream content stored on a BOLT? This most recent comment seems to contradict the FAQ Q&A in the OP.

     
  14. Dan203

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    Originally it didn't allow you to select any streaming device other then the Bolt itself when streaming from the Bolt. An update to the iOS app has changed that so you can now have a Roamio or standalone Stream selected, but it's not clear if it's actually using it or not. Even with a Roamio or standalone Steam selected you still can not stream out of home, which sort of suggests it's not using it as any other TiVo using it can stream OOH.
     
  15. krkaufman

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    Hmmm... clear as mud!

    So even if the Stream can stream from the BOLT, what's the point because it's not helping with the main current flaw in the BOLT's streaming solution. Odd.

    And thanks for the feedback!
     
  16. rolfl

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    What data rate/bandwitdh is used for one stream?

    Does it automatically adjust based on network condition?
     
  17. Dan203

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    It is automatic when you're OOH. I'm not sure of the exact bitrates, but there are 6 green dots along the bottom that fill up depending on the speed of your network.
     
  18. LostInTheTrees

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    "Q. Do I have to leave the app running for it to download shows?
    A. On iOS yes. A limitation of iOS requires that the device be left on with the TiVo app running in the foreground for it to download. If you shut off the device, close the TiVo app or switch to another app the download will pause until you bring the TiVo app back to the foreground. Android has the ability to download programs in the background."

    This is incorrect. Other apps implement backgournd downloading. Tivo has just not done the work required.
     
  19. Dan203

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    It's actually not possible. TiVo uses HLS for both streaming and downloading. HLS works by breaking up the video into thousands of tiny (~10 second) chunks, each it's own individual file, which are then linked back into sequence using a playlist file. Apple's background download feature only allows you to continue downloading a single file that you started while the app was in the foreground. It does not allow you to start downloading another file. So the most TiVo could do with the background download feature is to finish downloading the current 10 second chunk, at which point it would need to be brought back into the foreground to request the next one.

    The only way TiVo could fix this would be to completely change how the download feature works and have it download the video as a single large file rather then using HLS. I'm not sure if that's even possible with the hardware they're using in the Stream. (maybe the Bolt)
     
  20. krkaufman

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    Has this mobile streaming limit for the BOLT changed? The TiVo sales info for their mobile apps would certainly leave one with the impression that 4 concurrent streams are possible with the BOLT. I suspect misleading advertising, but wanted to be sure.

    See: https://www.tivo.com/discover/mobile-apps
     

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