TiVo Stream 4K versus Fire Stick 4K

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by moyekj, May 17, 2020.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I have now setup my wife's TV with TS4K and Reelgood for her set of shows and I'll keep and use the Fire Stick 4K with my Reelgood account for myself.
     
  2. stuart628

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    Sounds like it’s time for feel good to be bought by. Big fish...TiVo you reading this :)


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  3. osu1991

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    Guess I’ll definitely go back to the 4K Fire Stick on the living room setup. The flickering is back on videos played with plex and Emby tonight. :(

    I really wanted to like this as it works well with YouTube TV, Philo and the HD Homerun app, but the Live Channels app has an annoying audio dropout on every OTA channel and now once again the video blinking on plex and Emby. I’m just tired of fooling with it.

    I’ll leave it connected to my office tv and hope an update comes through someday. I can use it in an emergency for live tv with YTTV or Philo. SiriusXM seemed to work ok with it too, but I already have an Echo and a Nest Hub I can play that with in the office.


    Edit: it seems rebooting it clears out something as the same file now has played 9 mins without a screen flicker.
     
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  4. vurbano

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    YUP. Tivimate with IPTV and sling video playback as well. Use d pad to get to a drop down to pause? Ridiculous. I have loved every single remote Tivo has made until this piece of JUNK remote rolled out. Question is what bluetooth remote with play/pause/rew/FF will work with the 4K and still have the google voice button etc??
     
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  5. jimpmc

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    FYI, I paired the Fire Stick 4k remote to the TS4k and the rewind and fast forward buttons worked in Prime Video as single click items like they do on the Fire. So, it's not the Android TV app itself that doesn't support it. Maybe there is hope then of mapping the buttons but those must be something different than what button mapper allows for media controls fast forward and rewind. Anyone with a pro version of Button Mapper who can try mapping with keycodes?
     
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, thanks. How about left/right Dpad presses for skip 10 secs back/forwards? Does that work too? I'm guessing not.
     
  7. jimpmc

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    I already unpaired it and moved it back, so don't know.
     
  8. wizziwig

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    Here are some of the other FireTV Stick 4K features that make it a better buy:

    1) Fire TV Stick 4K can be obtained for as little as $25 when on sale during holidays.
    2) Has properly working video output that doesn't wash out your colors, crush shadow detail, or elevate black levels.
    3) No forced SDR->HDR conversion.
    4) Less buggy CEC support.
    5) Supports adaptive refresh rate in video apps that support it (Amazon Prime, Kodi, etc.). This gives you native 23.976 fps playback without the 3:2 judder of running everything at 60Hz.
    6) For me, it also appears to handle interlaced MPEG2 video better but I need more testing.
    7) Easier to get USB ethernet adapters working. I eventually got this to work on the TS4K but it took some finagling.
    8) Working HDR in youtube app.
    9) Includes HDMI extension cable so easier to install with cramped HDMI ports.

    Many others already mentioned like the improved rwd/pause/fwd navigation through dedicated remote buttons.

    This will likely get returned within the 30 day window unless there is some miracle software update before my return window closes.
     
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  9. siratfus

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    What buttons on the Fire remote are you holding to get it into pairing mode?
     
  10. jimpmc

    jimpmc Active Member

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    Home key for 20 seconds. Light will start to flash.
     
  11. siratfus

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    Ahh, I have many fire remotes. The newer ones with the volume rocker is the one that works. I was trying it with the ones without and SMH. Thanks!
     
  12. foghorn2

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    Bingo, it does handle interlaced Mpeg2 video than the Tivo sick stick. Not because of the hardware, the same AirTv handles it in hardware way better then the FTV in software (software is disabled), and with Kodi on the Tivo Sick Stick, the hardware does not function at all, it appears to be disabled and software decoding sucks arse compared to the FTV.

    All the software issues on the Tivo Sick Stick are not present on the FTV or the AirTv 4k dongle.

    The lack of rew/ffd/pause-play buttons makes the Tivo Sick Stick a terrible buy and a nonstarter. They exist on the FTV and the AirTv Mini 4K remotes.
     
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  13. jimpmc

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    At least there is hope if things are working on the AirTV 4k dongle, as the settings/configuration can be applied to the TS4k, since they are the same hardware/manufacturer.
     
  14. foghorn2

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    Well a plain jane Dongle Andriod TV has no issues, it seems to be a layer of crap Tivo slops on top that messes it all up.
     

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