TiVo Stream 4K versus Fire Stick 4K

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by moyekj, May 17, 2020.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Just got my Amazon Fire Stick 4K (my first Amazon stick) about 30 minutes ago and I already love it WAY better than the TiVo Stream 4K. Advantages versus Stream 4K I've seen already:

    1. Dedicated Remote buttons for rew, play/pause, ff that actually work in the video apps I care about (Netflix, Prime Video and HBO NOW).
    2. Much more responsive for pause/play, ff, rew remote presses, especially in Prime Video
    3. For Prime Video it has both ff/rew and 10 sec skip back and forwards and they work very fast. This is HUGE improvement over the TS4K app.
    4. Reelgood app launching for Amazon Prime Video actually works! Not only does it take you to the right episode, but it also starts playing the episode automatically. In contrast Reelgood on TS4K just takes you to the launch point of Amazon.
    5. Has a "Recent" section of videos I've been playing so that I can easily find to re-launch to what I was watching.
    6. With Alexa you can skip around videos easily with commands such as "rewind 2 minutes" or "fast forward 1 minute" and the response time is incredibly good.
    7. Fire Stick has a lot of settings built around controlling TV inputs such that even with CEC disabled on a TV you can have it switch inputs through Alexa commands such as "HDMI 1", "HDMI 2".

    Very, very happy so far compared to TS4K. I'm sure there are probably other advantages I haven't discovered yet and no doubt some disadvantages, but I'm loving the Fire Stick 4K so far.
    I'm already wishing I hadn't bothered with TS4K and instead spent the $50 on another Amazon Fire Stick 4K.
     
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  2. omelet1978

    omelet1978 Active Member

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    You seem like you are primarily or very heavily an Amazon Prime video user so yeah I’d say go with the Firestick.

    I have SlingTV, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+ and HBO so for me the Tivo Stream works. Albeit a generation 1 and quasi beta device that is is.
     
  3. JimT48

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    If you have a digital antenna you might want to check out the Amazon Fire Recast. It is designed to work with he Fire Stick. There is no charge for the TV guide either. You might also want to check into Philo. It's guide also integrates into the Recast TV guide.
     
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  4. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Well, you're still within the TiVo 30-day-satisfaction-guaranteed return period. ;)
     
  5. NiteCourt

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    Sling also integrates into the FireTv guide listings along with PlutoTV. I also have a FireTV recast so everything is integrated into the guide listings.

    Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
     
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  6. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

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    AirTV Mini 4k > FireStick 4K > Apple TV > Roku > Tivo Stream 4K

    thats how I rate them based on my usage/preference

    Ironic as how my best and worst is the same hardware. Tivo really botched it up.
     
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  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The one thing that bugged me about Fire TV was how Amazon focused the whole UI was. They required extra button presses to get to other apps. Although I still preferred it to Apple TV. Only reason I went back back to Apple TV is because it has a couple of apps I can’t get on Fire TV.

    At this point the only thing I really like about the TiVo is the remote, and even that has flaws that require a 3rd party app to overcome.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I just essentially leave Reelgood app running on Fire Stick and accessing everything from there, so very little interaction with rest of GUI so far. Also moved that to 1st position in apps list.
     
  9. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Wow! That app is so new to Fire TV devices that it doesn’t even have any reviews on Amazon.com (at this writing). I assume you knew about it from using it on another device (??). I’m wondering if setup and some of the advanced features don’t require a smart phone, tablet or web interface, i.e., can’t be done purely with the AFT remote.
     
  10. jimpmc

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    The Fire TV and Android TV versions are identical in terms of UI and current functionality, however, some of the linking apps that launch properly in one don't on the other (HBO GO for example doesn't launch on the Fire TV verison).
     
  11. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I just learned about Reelgood a few days ago from using it on TiVo Stream 4K since the TiVo software itself is full of holes and launching into Prime Video episodes doesn't work in that UI either. Was curious if it worked fine on FireTV 4K device and confirmed it works better than I could have expected.
     
  12. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Can you set it up directly with the FireTV remote? Streaming sources? Watches? Notifications (I assume not for that one).
     
  13. jimpmc

    jimpmc Active Member

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    Yes to all.
     
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  14. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes you can use the FireTV remote to set which services you receive, which series to watch, which episodes of series you have already watched, etc. You can also do all that from a web interface if you wish instead. In my case it's linked to my Google account, so setting up my Reelgood account was as simple as clicking on the Google sign in button.
     
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  15. vurbano

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    I am especially bummed at how badly Tivo Botched the remote. Ive had AMazon 4k sticks on TV's for awhile now. I just dont see much of an advantage with tivo's remote. they need to label the pad area and add the functionality that the firestick remote has at least.
     
  16. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I only wish the firestick had an "Input" button to change TV inputs and that it supported IR learning. Even though the TS4K has the "Input" button it's not useful without IR learning to me, because pressing "Input" button just brings up the TV menu. But the TV remote has an input cycle button which would be the best one to emulate.

    I haven't yet tried to pair the TiVo remote to Fire Stick just out of curiosity if that's even possible.
     
  17. jimpmc

    jimpmc Active Member

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    The Pad area on the Fire Stick 4K remote isn't labelled either. Nor is it on my remotes for my Samsung TV, nVidia Shield, etc. Why do people keep mentioning this as an issue?
     
  18. mdavej

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    Yep. No labels on the pad is no big deal. No play/pause button at all IS a big deal. What were they thinking?
     
  19. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    How do you get the Reelgood app on the Firetv 4k Stick? I looked for it yesterday and the search on the FireTV 4K stick came up with nothing.
     
  20. md wass

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    trying the search function and see if it shows up?
     

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