TiVo Stream 4K: Path to Perfection

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  1. babsonnexus

    babsonnexus Active Member

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    The TiVo Stream 4K is pretty good, but does not live up to its promise. With the right updates, it can get there! Here is a running list of what I've seen through my own experience and reading everything on the boards here. Please feel free to add and I'll update this post.

    In the interest of limited space (10,000 characters!), formatting, and ease of use, I have converted this to a Google Sheet.



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    TiVo Stream 4K - Path to Perfection
     
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  2. jwort93

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    More than just giving the option to turn Dolby Vision and HDR10 off manually, it needs to implement an automatic HDR mode and Color Space switching option. The Apple TV 4K, Shield TV, Roku, and Fire TV devices can all automatically switch into HDR w/ Rec. 2020 color space, when needed, and otherwise maintain SDR w/ Rec. 709 as the default.

    I would also really like to see an app agnostic automatic native framerate switching mode as well, similar to the Apple TV, and Roku. Although, I imagine that will be more difficult, as the Shield TV, which is also based on Android TV, hasn't been able to implement that yet.
     
  3. CMH

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    PRODUCT NAME
    TIVO STREAM 4K 2 or TIVO STREAM 8K​


    FORM FACTOR
    Same Shape - User provides HDMI CORD - Unit sits on table
    COMPANY / PROGRAMMING
    Buy SLING TV & Rename it TIVO TV
    1 Main Programming Pack with ALL LOCALS - IF too far for indoor antenna
    Program Pick-A-Packs - 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 $ based on #
    Premium ADD-ONS available for extra $
    Allow similar integration to competitor Program Providers
    Online Accessibility to use Anywhere
    DVR
    TIVO Experience with VIRTUAL DVR over ALL APPS & OTA & ONLINE
    Online Accessibility to use Anywhere​

    INTEGRATION
    AIR TV MINI or AIR TV 2 into Programming APPS
    ATSC 3.0 readiness​
    APPS
    FANGANGO NOW / VUDU - MOVIES ANYWHERE
    AMC THEATRES OD - RED BOX - ROW 8 - FUBU TV - PHILO
    VIDGO - YOU TUBE TV - FRNDLY TV - KLOWD TV - AIRY TV
    BUMBLEBEE.TV - DISTRO TV - PLUTO TV - STIRR TV - XUMO
    CRACKLE - FAWESOME TV - FILM RISE - PLEX - POPCORN FLIX
    TUBI - TV TIME - WWE​

    REMOTE CONTROL
    Full Size
    Backlit
    Universal TV Control
    Removal of NETFLIX Button
    THUMBS UP & DOWN return - User controls Suggestions
    Add DASH ( - ) Button - Use in OTA & other needs
    Add ENTER Button - Use in OTA & other needs
    Add CLEAR Button - Use in OTA & other needs
    RE-ADD - A B C D buttons so user can create own app shortcuts
    Number each APP - So can be loaded by number keys
    Number each TV Channel in each APP - So can be loaded by number keys​

    SPECS
    HDMI 2.1 or LATEST
    USB 4.0 only - No need for any other connectors
    32gb Memory OR MORE
    8gb RAM or MORE
    DOLBY HR10+
    IMAX​

    HOLD OVERS
    TIVO STREAM 4K Features & Specs that customer likes - UNLESS better available
    TRANSPARENCY
    Full Feature / Firmware / Software Update Notes put on the unit to read
    Manual on the unit to read and be updated when changes​

    PACKAGING
    Comes with Connector Covers (HDMI & USB) when not used - avoids dust​
     
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  4. Rikki_Rocket

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      • Please add “Live Guide” should have choice to show “My Channels” from Sling as an option. One of the main reasons I bought the TiVo Stream 4K was for the Guide since I love their guide on my other TiVo devices. The guide within the Sling App itself lets me show “My Channels” rather than just all the Sling Channels. So really, I like the Guide within native Sling app better than TiVo’s Stream 4K Guide. I never would have expected that. For me that is the one thing they should have gotten right. Shame on them!
     
  5. babsonnexus

    babsonnexus Active Member

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    @jwort93, thanks for the technical details. I had some of it, but some was beyond me so I just c&p'd you for the most part

    @CMH, saw your original post and already had most of this, but missed a lot of the remote stuff so added that here. I'm going to focus this mostly on working on the existing technologies (including the existing TiVo Android box that exists) than worry about the next generation, so please do not mind that I've dis-included suggestions related to that. Also, def not going to play TiVo buying Sling and creating new packages; that is a massive rabbit hole! Let's just think about how to work with what we have now.

    @Rikki_Rocket, I thought I had this, but I get what you are saying. If you already limited your channels on the base service (like Sling), you want those preferences to carry over. Got it added!
     
  6. CMH

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    no bother - keep updating the 1st post - run with ball i hand off to you - but how about below what to do to this generation - you add a next gen wish list too ?
     
  7. babsonnexus

    babsonnexus Active Member

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    You can have that one! :tearsofjoy:
     
  8. stuart628

    stuart628 Active Member

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    Love it, I did a review and wrote a lot of what you are saying in there too (I sent it to tivo) I really would love to see TiVo open up some kind of group and take suggestions on what to do and work with a select few people..this thing could be great..I can see it, but it could also be a disaster.
    @babsonnexus great list I agree on almost all of your points, well done!
     
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  9. CMH

    CMH Member

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    no you lol
     
  10. Rikki_Rocket

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    I agree well done. But how long will it take TiVo to fix all of this? They are not that big of a company. To be fair some of the things in the list I would consider “bugs” or things we expected in a base product and others are nice to have “enhancements”.
     
  11. babsonnexus

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    I'll try to add some system of identifying bugs vs. enhancements vs. nice to haves vs. new product later in the week. I keep running into max character issues when I do so!
     
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  12. Narkul

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    Allow manual programming of the remote. My receiver is older and does not have HDMI and there doesn't seem to be a way to program the remote to operate my systems volume.
     
  13. CMH

    CMH Member

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    bring back thumbs up and thumbs down - the suggestions tivo producing is pure GARBAGE - Let the user control it
     
  14. CMH

    CMH Member

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    SPECS
    Thumbs UP & Thumbs Down - So we can weed out all the garbage
    HDMI 2.1 or LATEST
    USB 4.0 only - No need for any other connectors
    32gb Memory OR MORE
    8gb RAM or MORE
    DOLBY HR10+
    IMAX

    COMPANY / PROGRAMMING
    Buy SLING TV & Rename it TIVO TV
    1 Main Programming With ALL LOCALS - IF too far for indoor antenna
    Program Pick-A-Packs - 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 $ based on #
    Premium ADD-ONS available for extra $

    TRANSPARENCY
    Full Feature / Firmware / Software Update Notes put on the unit to read
    Manual on the unit to read and be updated when changes

    PACKAGING
    Comes with Connector Covers (HDMI & USB) when not used - avoids dust


    only things i have to add
     
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  15. stuart628

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    Couple things, Single Sign on through android settings sorta what apple tv has implemented

    Also setup one stream 4k and once I setup the 2nd, 3rd, 4th whatever it copies all apps settings and homescreens over to the other ones.
     
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  16. stuart628

    stuart628 Active Member

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    Tivo on twitter said they are aware of the hdmi bug and are working on it.
     
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  17. CMH

    CMH Member

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    hope so
     
  18. babsonnexus

    babsonnexus Active Member

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    I've updated this so it is now a spreadsheet that includes prioritization, data added/modified, and status. It is fully filterable for anyone's needs!
     
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  19. srazook

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    I’m not a fan of Sling TV because of its lack of Live “Local” Streaming Channels and the extremely small amount of Cloud DVR storage. My Streaming TV provider of choice is YouTube TV. I realize, at least at this point, it will not interface with the TiVo UI and Grid. But it would be nice to have the YouTube TV app launch when you press the “Live” button on the remote. Is there anyway to program the remote? I’d love to see this feature available in future updates!
     

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