TiVo Stream 4k is NOW AVAILABLE

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by cwoody222, May 6, 2020.

  1. pldoolittle

    pldoolittle Tivo'ing since 2001

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    Been running mine since yesterday. Here are my thoughts.

    Pros:
    • Power/volume via CEC worked perfectly, no setup required.
    • Ability to resize video output (my TV overscans)
    • Integrated Chromecast
    • Google/gSuite support.
    Cons:
    • Cannot stream from TiVo.
    • Bluetooth remote took 3 tries to setup
    • Cannot reorder apps list.
    • Philo/Starz/Youtube are not integrated.
    • No TE3 style program list available.
    • Sluggish responses at times.
    • HDMI cable too short/stiff. Should have used a female jack and (replaceable) cable.
    Other:
    • No Alexa support (vs Fire stick in an Amazon home)
    Summary: If it had integration with the content providers I use, it would be great. But it doesn't and this renders the TiVo app useless. For me, the only differentiation volume and power (my firestick 1 doesn't have them), but these are available (with Alexa) on FS2 for $10 less. Unless they integrate more apps or add streaming from Tivo (rapidly), there is no compelling reason to get this over a Firestick.


    Yes, very. Sometimes it snappy and other times it's very slow. I have seen 3 second wait times from pressing TiVo to entering the app. Their splash screen doesn't appear to help, although it could just be covering for other delays.
     
  2. yaggermr

    yaggermr New Member

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    Search for a code to control TV power and volume

    1. Cover the end of the TiVo remote control with your hand.
    2. Hold down the TiVo and TV Power buttons simultaneously until the red (or amber) light on the remote control remains on.
    3. Remove your hand from the end of the TiVo remote control.
    4. Enter code 0999.
    5. After you enter the code, the red (or amber) light will flash three times and then remain on.
    6. Press Channel Up once every two seconds. This will test hundreds of codes, one by one. Do not go any faster than this or you may skip over a code that works

    It doesn't work unfortunately. It works up to the last point when you hit ok ( center button) it doesn't save the code for some reason. I have tested it on two different brand TVs and that's the worst part. once you get the code you can even hit power and volume buttons and see it works. When you hit ok it resets.
     
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  3. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    I find it interesting/a little disappointed that there is so little discussion of the actual TivoStream app and what it can do, what new it brings to streaming and so much (positive and negative) being discussed about the hardware and AndroidTV in general.

    I get the sense people are treating this more like a new AndroidTV instead of a new TiVo product. (I realize it’s both) I think that’s a shame since I think the later is way more exciting.
     
  4. yaggermr

    yaggermr New Member

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    I believe people would focus on that if the other parts were in place. You need a solid foundation. I like the Tivo experience of the app but the rest of the android tv interface needs work. Consent HDR, No programming of power volume buttons. It feels really beta and half baked. There's some good ideas but no polish.
     
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  5. The Jake

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    My sincere hope is they improve this thing greatly now that the hardware is out. At a minimum, the TiVo app should playback recordings from my TiVo boxes. If they want to neuter live-TV playback to try and drive Sling subscriptions, fine... I'll be disappointed, but if it keeps them in business, then fine.
     
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  6. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

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    Would be great if there was a way to import a watchlist from an app into MyShows.
     
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  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The TiVo part doesn’t work for me. I mentioned it in another thread. I setup recordings for Sling and it shows that those recordings exist, but when you click on the show name in My Shows it doesn’t have links to the recordings. Just a generic link to Sling that takes you to the generic page for the show and not your DVR recordings of the show. The search is also terrible. It seems to be a generic search done through Google instead of TiVo. It's slow and it's the only search on the whole device I've found that doesn’t support voice input so you have to type, which is also slow.

    So the TiVo part is broken.
     
  8. smark

    smark Well-Known Member

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    It's in all the threads. Some of it is how the Tivo app and remote interact with AndroidTV and the hardware and what customization they have done. It's an entire package so talking about the Stream 4K is the app, hardware and Android TV underpinnings and what they have done there such as not being able to uninstall the Sling app (which one may want to do if they are having issues to reinstall it).
     
  9. pldoolittle

    pldoolittle Tivo'ing since 2001

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    For those of us not using Sling, the TiVo functionality is useless and it's just an android TV box.
     
  10. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

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    I don’t use Sling but I’ll still add to MyShows from Netflix and Amazon so they’re in the same place.
     
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  11. tivolocity

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    Knowing this forum would be a great resource for reading first impressions, I've been holding off on ordering one. Sadly, it seems many/most people are at least a little disappointed with some aspect of the device. Since I don't have any interest in adding Sling, I think I'll continue to hold off until it supports connecting to my Bolt. If that day ever comes. Thanks for all your comments!
     
  12. powrcow

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    I'm not using Sling since I'm still using my TiVo DVR. The TiVoStream app is about 80% of the way there. I primarily use Amazon Prime Membership and Netflix and it is nice to have the My Shows view show all shows and movies I could watch between the two streaming services. The device is VERY fast, so I can easily click the link into the show and drop into playing it within a second.

    Where the TiVoStream app fails is that it doesn't sync your last watched episode with the service. So if you just watched Season 2 episode 3 of a show, you won't see that in the TiVoStream app. But it doesn't matter all that much since you can click, for example, the Netflix button on the show page and it will immediately start playing the next episode of that show in Netflix.

    So it isn't OnePass version 2. It's essentially a streaming content availability aggregator across a limited number of services.
     
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  13. powrcow

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    Also, the search in the TiVoStream app isn't TiVo Search, but Google's AndroidTV search. The search result will return links to the TiVoStream app, but coming from a TiVo I was surprised they didn't put their search in there. Also, coming from a TiVo, I understand why they didn't put their search in there (buggy).
     
  14. pldoolittle

    pldoolittle Tivo'ing since 2001

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    Two problems with that 1) I have far more shows not on Netflix than on netflix. This leads to Amazon video purchase (i.e. non-prime) or Google Play purchase links. 2) I cannot have Amazon prime only like I can on TiVo. Basically, out of 30+ shows on My Shows, 10-20% are non-pay at this point.

    Examples:
    - Better Call Saul. Available 1 season behind on Netflix, current on Philo (not integrated)
    - Outlander. Available 2 seasons behind on Netflix, current on Starz (not integrated)
    - Lincoln Rhyme. Available for purchase on Amazon, Free on TiVO DVR OTA (unavailable)

    This is the case for almost every show on My Shows that I'm not starting post series conclusion or a netflix original. And every one of those are available integrated with guide data on my TiVo Bolt.
     
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  15. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    What new does it bring? It lets you record and use the tv guide in the same UI. Sling only.
     
  16. moyekj

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    Supposedly aggregation of streaming services into "My Shows" for the few services (Netflix, Amazon Prime and few others) that is supported for. I'm curious if it works any better than it does on DVR TiVos but I highly doubt it.
     
  17. aaronwt

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    I've found the TiVo part has worked well for Netflix and Hulu shows. But it didn't work at all for Amazon shows. For Netflix and Hulu , when you select the icon with the new episode in the TiVo app, it would pull that page right up in their apps. But with Amazon, it just went to the Amazon app home page. It never went to the show page.
     
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  18. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    yeah aggregation isn’t new to streaming though. The Appletv app does it.
     
  19. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

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    I think that only happens once with each show in Amazon. The next time you select it from MyShows it should take you straight to the series or, if you pick a specific episode, start playing it.
     
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  20. Noelmel

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    Maybe I’m misunderstanding part of your post. But there’s 2 diff Amazon options. Prime only (free included) and then prime video (with pay things not included) I unchecked the one. And also the google movie / tv store. So everything only shows up free. I have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Disney Plus & HBO Now selected


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