Tivo STOP the AD's!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by techie714, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. Sep 7, 2007 #81 of 133
    matt314159

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    While i'm still in the camp that Roy listed as #1, I would not at all be adverse to actually lowering the price of a sub with MORE ads, as others have mentioned. If the ads actually brought a discount, i'd be all for it.

    If there were such a thing as a $10/month sub w/ a minimum contract (like a year maybe) but with a targeted banner ad on the program guide, and an ad on the main screen, I'd probably take them up on it. But whether or not a couple more prominantly placed ads in the tivo software would generate enough revenue to subsidize that much of a sub's cost, I don't have any idea.
     
  2. Sep 7, 2007 #82 of 133
    MichaelK

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    I'm mostly in camp 5- so I'd say you are actually already in such a plan as that's what TIvo is doing. They have added ads in an attempt to give you a discount. Thing is it's not an option- it's just what they figure most people would be willing to put up with to keep the price down...
     
  3. Sep 7, 2007 #83 of 133
    RoyK

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    That's #2 :D
     
  4. Sep 7, 2007 #84 of 133
    bicker

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    Which means less than nothing. What actually matters is whether (1) TiVo makes money from having the advertisements and (2) TiVo loses less revenue from subscribers canceling because of the advertisements than they make from the advertisements themselves. Nothing else you mention matters one bit.
     
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    bicker

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    I hate standing in queue at the security check at the airport, but I still do it.
     
  6. Sep 7, 2007 #86 of 133
    matt314159

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    I'm not really in any camp since at the moment I don't have a tivo. I refuse to sign up for a monthly plan at their rate or prepay three years in advance. I had an ebay auction that I had won for one, but that fell through when the seller backed out. Now I am keeping my eyes open on eBay to see if I can find a decent price on a lifetime box, because I think anything other than that is a ripoff. Their $300 3 year prepay isnt too bad but for that I can find a lifetime box on ebay.
     
  7. Sep 7, 2007 #87 of 133
    Langree

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    Freezinmyass...
    You can get a lifetime S3 or THD for that?
     
  8. Sep 7, 2007 #88 of 133
    Atomike

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    You do - but don't you think it's possible that SOME people may not fly as much because of the hassle? Your analogy is good, but it demonstrates the opposite point of view.

    Personally, if I didn't have lifetime service, I would drop Tivo and build a MythTV due to ads. Asking someone to pay a premium fee, and then showing ads is not only annoying, it's insulting to your customers. It gives the impression of double-dipping. Concerning the argument that "Tivo needs the money so I don't care about the ads" - well good for you. Why don't you send in extra money each month to supplement your "charity".
    And the "I don't even see the ads!" crowd - Yikes. Not very discerning. Just realize that unless you asked for the ads, it's not TV YOUR way - it's TV Tivo's way.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2007 #89 of 133
    Langree

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    There it is again, I have yet to see an ad, no I see a line item, and if I click it I can see the ad. But I don't click it. Hell, the line item barely registers.
     
  10. Sep 7, 2007 #90 of 133
    matt314159

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    Nope, but a S1 with lifetime (~$200) will look fine on my SDTV for now. Maybe later they'll have another lifetime transfer offer.

    If you need HD, you're best off going through tivo
     
  11. Sep 7, 2007 #91 of 133
    astrohip

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    Such specious arguments. They're not "showing" you ads, they are displaying an additional line on a menu. It requires *zero* extra effort to ignore these "ads". And it's not a premium fee, it's what you pay for the TiVo service. There's nothing "premium" about it.

    Double dipping? I subscribe to PCMag, send them good money, and they *still* put ads in the magazine. Heck, I have to turn the page to bypass them, that's more effort than the TiVo ads require. And my bank slips little glossy adverts in my monthly statement (well, they used to--I'm eStatements now). I managed to simply bypass them without going all postal.

    Revenue is revenue. TiVo can do what they want (within the limits of any contractual agreements, obviously) and we can take it or leave it. That famous free-market choice many of us have. Could TiVo find some level of advertising that would aggravate me enough to leave? Sure. But this ain't even close. Like a .001 on a 1 to 10.

    Edited to add: what langree said, he just types faster, and is more succint, than I am.
     
  12. Sep 7, 2007 #92 of 133
    Atomike

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    Your pros hens equivocal logical fallacy is showing.
    I assume you actually understood what what meant, but simply like to type. If not, I really don't know what to say.

    Irony.
     
  13. Sep 7, 2007 #93 of 133
    MickeS

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    There are more ads in one baseball game than their have been on the TiVo during the entire time I've owned one. How these one-line items of text bother anyone is beyond me.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2007 #94 of 133
    MickeS

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    A lifetime TiVo still sells pretty easily on eBay. The money you make on it will go a long way towards building your MythTV box. Put your money where your mouth is.
     
  15. Sep 7, 2007 #95 of 133
    Langree

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    I totally understand, but to call them intrusive and annoying, or even an ad in the proper sense is plain silly.
     
  16. Sep 7, 2007 #96 of 133
    tmesser

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    That's the #1 reason why I haven't spent the time and money to build one. I don't really want another computer in my house that I have to actively support. I spend all day working on Linux systems; when I come home, I just want to sit down for a while and watch TV.

    My TiVo just works. And I rarely notice the ads.
     
  17. Sep 7, 2007 #97 of 133
    steve614

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    Exactly. Off hand, I can't recall what these "ads" are for.
    (That's how much I notice them.)
     
  18. Sep 7, 2007 #98 of 133
    kmill14

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    Feel free to drop Tivo and use Comcast's DVR ....but be prepared for the most intrusive ad system you could ever imagine.

    Tivo has really tried to keep the ads un-intrusive and still offer them to the people who want to check them out. If it helps them keep their head above water to provide customers like you and me great service and innovations, I say go for it.

    If it ever go to the point where it was annoying to a lot of people....they would hear enough of it to stop, or people would just leave.
     
  19. Sep 7, 2007 #99 of 133
    DCIFRTHS

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    My original statement is below.

    This is how you quoted me.

    This was your response to my post.

    1) Why did you leave off the first part of my quote without indicating that you did so?

    2) What point were you attempting to make by responding to my post?
     
  20. Sep 7, 2007 #100 of 133
    matt314159

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    Don't feel too bad, he's done it to me too. Some people are so concerned about arguing and disproving somebody else that they will do whatever they have to, including taking things out of context and putting a "spin" on what you said.
     

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