Advertisements I'm with you, Darth. There's no reason a DVR can't be used as a standalone Digital Video Recorder. The expression "DVR" means nothing more or less. For the record, I wouldn't want to use it without the service (I tried when I got my first unit), but I certainly think you should be able to give it a shot. I think it IS pretty sleazy for Tivo to pout and disable your Tivo because you didn't want to pay for the service (which is way overpriced, IMO, given all the free services available). Still, I grin and bear it because the units are relatively inexpensive, and setting up my own Myth box would cost a lot more initially. But again, not trying to disparage the service (it's great), but I can understand why you wouldn't want to pay and support your right to use it as a standalone without the service.