Tivo Software 11.0n

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by dmeyer, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. Jan 31, 2016 #61 of 112
    pL86

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    That's an interesting workaround. My zip code is also a Comcast service area so that part would be easy but the pain of going through Guided Setup twice on a Tivo HD is a huge deterrent. I might do it if I had some confidence the Tivo would be updated promptly but with my luck, I'd probably switch and two weeks would pass without anything happening. I have too many upcoming recordings that would be messed up. Would be interested to hear if someone else tried it.
     
  2. Jan 31, 2016 #62 of 112
    lew

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    I don't have enough mpeg4 channels to be worth the hassle. Force a network connection every few hours. You should get the software in a day or two. My guess is 24;hours or less.
     
  3. Jan 31, 2016 #63 of 112
    untfan

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    FWIW - I am on Comcast and in an area where they've started to migrate to MPEG4 and my TCD652160 is still on 11.0m (actually 11.0k as I just got 'm' by imaging a spare drive in hopes of speeding up the n download) - hopefully next week otherwise I'm reaching out to support.
     
  4. Feb 1, 2016 #64 of 112
    docfruitbat

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    I tried all of video output format combinations, and still get no HDMI output, even if I unplug the Composite and do the format change blind.
    A few more details: I timed this behaviour.
    At power-on there's a 7 second delay before I see the "Welcome" screen. It stays on for 1 minute 33 seconds, at which time it blanks. I switch over to the Composite input and see the "Just a few Minutes more" screen, so liklely this is the cut-over point from first-stage boot to second-stage boot (or perhaps the handoff from the boot process to the rest of the startup). Now, this is pretty consistent reguardless of how many times I do it (and I did it 3 times in a row, the first time was after letting the system sit unplugged over night).
    I had another talk with Tivo Support on Friday and, after a bit more diagnostics, they'd determined that the HDMI port was "dead" (for want of a better description). It's refusing to setup HDCP for whatever reason.
    They, then, made me an offer that I'm thinking of taking rather than doing any repair work myself:
    They've offered to swap out the HD XL for a newer Premiere 4 at no cost and free shipping. I'd still have to buy Lifetime sub at $200, though.
    My options are thus:
    1) Spend time to source the new caps and "repair" the PSU, with no guarantee that that is the problem (which I still feel it's not).
    Cost: my "time", "effort" and only a little "money" for the parts and whatever it cost me to drive to pick it up. :)
    Pros: only a little money, and the sweet, sweet smell of melting solder! :)
    Cons: same old HD XL unit which may not survive the next great Comcast network upgrade, and only barely skirted by this last one by the skin of it's MPEG4 teeth! Also, might not "fix" the problem.
    2) Replace the PSU.
    Cost: $199, but with a $100 rebate, so $99 effectively.
    Pros: a bit more money, even when I send the old PSU back for the rebate, and no solder burns! :)
    Cons: same old unit (see #1).
    3) Take the offer of the Premiere 4.
    Cost: $200 for Lifetime Sub.
    Pros: Newer Tivo with possibly better prospects for support, long term (and still no solder burns). :)
    Cons: effectively double the cost of #2.
    Honestly, I'm thinking #3 is really my best option. It gets me an "upgrade" that I was looking at anyways for much less cost than a new unit would have set me back.
    Does anyone see a real downside to this?
     
  5. Feb 1, 2016 #65 of 112
    lew

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    I'd take the $200 deal. You might ask how much for a Roamio.

    Can you temporarily hook up to TV with component inputs? If that works you can buy a component video + digital audio to HDMI box from monoprice. I'd probably take the tivo deal then see about using your HD on an extra set
     
  6. Feb 1, 2016 #66 of 112
    jrtroo

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    I would either take the deal or see what your local market has for used lifetime premiere boxes. I sold an upgraded one a few months ago for under $200, so a cheaper deal may be available now. The Premiere 4 they offered is probably a refurb, but I never have issues buying those myself.
     
  7. Feb 2, 2016 #67 of 112
    captainstabbins

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    Still no N firmware...Anyone else get it in the Philly area??
     
  8. Feb 2, 2016 #68 of 112
    Mike Richardson

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    My apartment complex should have Comcast starting in March... As long as the software is still available next month when I run guided setup again.

    Is it only Comcast zips with MPEG-4, or is it all the zips (because I'm sure that they will eventually transition all their markets to MPEG-4, so they can get more bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.1 and more channels).
     
  9. Feb 2, 2016 #69 of 112
    unitron

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    Yeah, that first screen in on a chip on the motherboard, but the second is on the hard drive.

    Is that HD XL lifetimed and will it still be lifetimed after you buy and lifetime the Premiere 4?

    ('cause I don't care if the HDMI output works or not)
     
  10. Feb 2, 2016 #70 of 112
    Wil

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    Has this worked for anybody?
     
  11. Feb 3, 2016 #71 of 112
    HerronScott

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    I received it on our HD here in VA on the 22nd and no MPEG4 yet.

    Scott
     
  12. Feb 4, 2016 #72 of 112
    pL86

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    Well if you're on Verizon, the channels switched to mpeg4 last week are back to mpeg2. Still hoping to see 11.0n soon.
     
  13. Feb 5, 2016 #73 of 112
    Wil

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    Maybe at the other place if you don't have anywhere else to upload. It would certainly be appreciated.
     
  14. Feb 6, 2016 #74 of 112
    HerronScott

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    Visiting my son at college and confirmed that his HD on FIOS is still 11.0m.

    Scott
     
  15. Feb 7, 2016 #75 of 112
    Wil

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    I've parked three Tivo 11.0m HDs at known Comcast mpeg4 target zip codes for 4 nights each. No sign of 11.0n on any of them.

    Must be more complicated than that.

    Maybe some kind soul someday will upload 11.0n somewhere.
    Maybe some kind souls someday will start sharing some information about 11.0n.

    There are some people, regrettably only a few left apparently, willing to work on this for the benefit of Tivo hobbyists. But we can't do it without the freaking code or any useful information.

    There are no, zero, nada sources within Tivo anymore. It's up to us.
     
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  16. Feb 7, 2016 #76 of 112
    buccobruce

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    I tried to send you a PM, but your inbox is full.

    bb
     
  17. Feb 8, 2016 #77 of 112
    philhu

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    I have a tivoHD that will not do hdmi output after 'Powering up, please wait'

    It must have something to do with HDCP handshaking.

    Anyway, bought a box on Monoprice for $34 that takes the component and spidf output and puts it out to hdmi. works perfectly.
     
  18. Feb 8, 2016 #78 of 112
    docfruitbat

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    The HD XL is Lifetime'd but the deal is to replace the unit with another unit. The Lifetime on it disappears wih the unit, unfortunately. It's understandable as they are giving me a "free" unit in exchange for the old.
    I had asked about keeping the old unit, and, infact, I'd get the "keep" it (they don't want it back), but the Lifetime would still be removed (again, a condition of the deal), so it's effectively a "dead" box. I can keep it as a flower-pot/door-stop, recycle it or send it to you if you want it. :)
     
  19. Feb 8, 2016 #79 of 112
    docfruitbat

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    Indeed, I have decided to take the deal. I asked about an upgrade to a Roamio, but it wasn't possible. They were looking to swap for an "equivalent unit" (their words). Originally the offer was for a "Premiere", but I asked about a "Premiere 4 XL" say I'd eat the cost, and they agree'd to upgrade me to that also for no cost. Going up a step to a Roamio wasn't in the cards.
    I brought a Roamio Pro a few months about and I love it! Would have love to upgade this to another Roamio, but, well, you understand what the offer was. :)
    As for Component: Alas, the TV I bought doesn't have Component input (I was surprised too), only HDMI and Composite. I didn't figure I would need it at the time. I could have bought a Component-to-HDMI box, but, again, it would just delay the inevitable.
    Anyway, I feel I'm getting a pretty good deal of a "newer" box (one that TiVo still supports, unlike the HD XL) mostly "for free", so I've no real complaints.
     
  20. Feb 8, 2016 #80 of 112
    docfruitbat

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    Just curious: Can you determine when this happened? If it was around the time of the upgrade to 11.0n, then that might be another data-point indicating that there maybe something wrong with the upgrade after all.
     

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