TiVo should have taken over PlayStation Vue

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Johncv, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Johncv

    Johncv Well-Known Member

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    Sony is discontinuing PlayStation Vue in January. I think TiVo should have taken it over and rebranded it and advertise the hick out of it. What do people here think?
     
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  2. Charles R

    Charles R Active Member

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    If Sony couldn't make it work I don't think TiVo would have a chance...
     
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  3. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

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    Well let's think about this. Playstation has a hardware subscriber base of over 100 million and TiVo has a subscriber base of under 1 million. Hmm, nope don't think that's a very good idea.
     
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  4. Narkul

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    Tivo executive 1: "Boss, Sony has offered us Playstation Vue at a great price, it would be an excellent opportunity to get our foot in the door of the 21st century.

    Tivo executive 2: "Or we could just launch our own streaming service pooling together some little known existing channels and call it Tivo+, Our subscribers would love it."

    CEO: "Number one, you're fired. Number two, I'm promoting you to security, please escort number one out of the building."
     
  5. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

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    Tivo would have the same scaling problem Sony did, the same problems getting a decent rate from content providers and those providers may not allow recording to a hardware dvr. If using a cloud dvr was mandatory (likely) people here wouldn't like it. People would hate what it costs. More OTT services will fail, even Google's entry is not safe (YouTube Live). The future will be expensive...
     
  6. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

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    Right now OTT live streaming services are licenses to burn money. People may have put too much faith in OTT, and underestimated the cable companies. I use some OTT services but I realize they can just go pffft at any time.
     
  7. Krandor

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    Sony’s big issue was marketing. Should have been don’t vue. People thought a PlayStation was required. I had vue and it was great but the assumption a ps was required was a problem.

    Still never understood why they didn’t try a name change.

    TiVo picking it up wouldn’t have worked. A service like that with rovi guide data would be horrible.
     
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  8. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Tivo can do one thing, be a competent dvr, and they suck at everything else they attempt to do in addition to that.
     
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  9. Charles R

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    Not sure they had a problem getting them... however losing 1/3 of your subscribers within a year certainly is a problem. My guess is anyone serious enough to actually look into subscribing to such (streaming service) would become familiar with what's available. Heck I had/have no interest in such and even knew what they offered.

    Perhaps using your reasoning the 110 million registered PlayStation users believed it was their only option. :) The only service with PlayStation in its name... great marketing.
     
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  10. Krandor

    Krandor Active Member

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    I have sneaks think they name was a mistake and people over talked confirm that. If you ever check r/vue it’s always been the a huge topic. It was a problem.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    TiVo should buy Fubo. They have all the major networks, except those owned by ABC, and so how managed to get the ability to DVR their channels forever. (Youtube TV is second with 9 months, while the rest are all 30-90 days) If TiVo could incorporate the Fubo OTT lineup into an OTA DVR that ran Android TV they'd have the perfect cord cutter box. $80/mo you get most/all of the cable channels people actually watched combined with the ability to record your locals via OTA tied to TiVo's UI/DVR features and the Android TV backend for additional apps.

    Or maybe Fubo should just improve their app a little, create their own AndroidTV OTA DVR and just put TiVo out of business. (although they have a stupid name)
     
  12. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    What are the networks owned by ABC, i.e., what would be missing from Fubo other than my local ABC affiliate?
    I tried to Google for this and got nowhere.

    I'm on my first paid month of YTTV and really like it, but it's my first such service and I'm not stuck to it. Fubo only costs $5 more and there are rumors of another YTTV increase in the works.

    As I understand it, 9 months is a maximum DVR recording retention on YTTV -- it varies with the channel and for some, e.g., CBS, it's like one day. After that you get VOD versions with unskippable commercials.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Freeform (previously ABC Family), all the Disney Channel variants and ESPN.

    I don't have kids so none of those really mattered to me, other than ABC which I could get OTA but would require a different device (TiVo) and switching inputs.

    Another flaw with Fubo was it had no "keep at most" setting, which would have made managing daily news type shows that I don’t always watch a PITA.

    And the fatal flaw.... no user profiles. Meaning my shows and my wife's shows would have all been clumped together, and shows we both watch but separately, hard to manage. (we currently have our own TiVos)

    Their DVR policies are excellent though. 500 hours of recordings with no time limit.
     
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  14. Charles R

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    My take... any streaming service available to be purchased is one that isn't going to last (for any period of time). Going forward the market is only going to mature killing off the low hanging fruit.
     

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