Tivo should go after the OTA market (but first understand those customers)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by warrenn, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

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    This tread is becoming Antenna Porn!

    More antenna links and pictures please!
     
  2. wizwor

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    Sorry, some times I get carried away :eek:
     
  3. KSOC Kid

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    When I switched from cable tv to satellite in 2008 I was "that guy" checking out everyone's roof/yard to see if they had a dish/antenna/cable. I had cable since 1970 so satellite was so foreign to me but very intriguing. I don't know why but I've been fascinated with pulling signals out of the sky since then. Switched to antenna in Fall '15 now looking at others antenna's. When I see roofs without any I used to assume cable. But now I know there are folks like me who have their antenna hanging in their attic (mine) or by the tv. I love antenna pictures. No, my wife does not understand this or my love of cooking with charcoal or what kind of grill one uses. She doesn't make fun because she benefits from both my quirks. I just outed myself.
     
  4. wizwor

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    Maybe this forum needs an 'antenna porn' topic? There is nothing more important or less understood in the OTA business. Most people do not even understand that UHF antennas are different than VHF antennas or why that matters.
     
  5. Bigg

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    I've always looked around at dishes when out and about. It's hard to tell what people actually have. I lived in a house with an SL5 that was there from when the owner liver there, but we had Comcast. I'd hope all the Phase III's and DISH 500's are out of service, but maybe some grandma somewhere is watching TV on her 27" Trinitron, unaware that the world has moved on to HD, Hopper, Genie, SWiM, and now 4k on DirecTV.
     
  6. Imageek2

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    I still have my DirecTV dish on our roof even though we switched to OTA and streaming 8 months ago. I mounted our antenna on the DirecTV mast just under the dish while we were switching and haven't had a reason to take the dish down.

    P.S. here is a pic of the antenna I have, works very well. :)
     

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  7. TonyD79

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    You also need to update your signature. You haven't taken directv down from it, either.

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  8. Oaklander

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    I don't want to horn in on this thread but it seems appropriate. To mods please move to different thread if I am off-topic...

    After my contentious relationship with ATT Uverse I am testing out cord-cutting but may move back to a provider at some point if cord-cutting does not work.

    Can I buy the Tivo Bolt to record 3 OTA channels at the same time? I mostly watch Network TV and occasional go to Cable, and even more rarely to Pay TV. Since some of the shows I watch are programmed against each other I need to be able to record two and in some occasions three shows at the same time. If I want some sports, I may get that SlingTV from DISH for $20 or I may not.

    I moved directly from my old ReplayTV (anybody remember that?) to Uverse. I am familiar with TiVo and may grumble but will pay for reliability. I hasten to add I am am also looking at Tablo and Channel Master.
     
  9. shwru980r

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    The bolt can either be set up to record OTA or Cable, but not both at the same time. The Dual tuner premiere was the last Tivo that could be set up to record both cable and OTA.
     
  10. JoeKustra

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    bonscott87 Done.

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    As mentioned, the Bolt is either OTA or Cable but not both at the same time. Either way it has 4 tuners so recording 4 OTA at the same time is not an issue.
     
  12. Oaklander

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    Thank you shwru980r and bonscott87. Just so I move on with this project. All I need is the Bolt and an HD Antenna to test this model and since Tivo includes a 1 year service there should be no other cost until year 2? Am I correct in this assumption?
     
  13. JoeKustra

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    I guess you already know that OTA is a viable solution in your location? You can check the various web sites, or walk around the block and see how many outdoor antennae you count. :)
     
  14. warrenn

    warrenn Well-Known Member

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    You don't need a special "HD" antenna. Any regular TV antenna will work. If you have a pair of old rabbit ears, they'll probably work. Sometimes Goodwill will have antennas back with their extensive selection of CRT TVs.

    If you buy a new one, find one in a box that's easily opened and resealed so you can return it if you don't get good reception.
     
  15. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    I'll help. As a rough guess, what is your zipcode?
     
  16. Oaklander

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  17. Oaklander

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    Believe it or not, zero antennas but I'll look around. TVFool says I'll get a bunch even from an indoor antenna. I

    I got a Winegard Flatwave FL-5000 from my good friends at Amazon Prime, should have it tomorrow. It was recommended on Reddit's cordcutter forum by a guy in Berkeley. I can always return it. Apparently I needed a VHF/UHF antenna and I can always return it if it did not work.

    I am in 94606.

    If I get a good signal I am all set.
     
  18. JoeKustra

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    You should get a good signal with even a low gain antenna. Half the distance to the towers is over the water. :) I lived in San Mateo for 15 years. Unless there is something blocking your signal, or you live in a small valley, you look good.

    I can not recommend a DVR+ at this time. I have been following the thread since it started, and the 7400 before that. Maybe someday they will stabilize the box.

    More reading: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/45-local-hdtv-info-reception/369015-san-francisco-ca-ota.html

    Just kidding.
     
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  19. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Water is one of the biggest killers of RF Signals thanks to temperature inversion.
     
  20. Oaklander

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    I don't know about water inversion and RF signal quality but this OTA + Bolt better work or its back to ATT/Comcast or DISH. DISH is the least painful of the lt unless they have worked hard to match ATT/Comcast's poor service and quality. Maybe I'll give it all up and wean myself away from TV and watch not so cute kitten videos on youtube. I hear people love it.
     

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