TiVo Series 3

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by azvenigo, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    I would think the ability to efficeintly utilize digital cable and do HD factor more in the introductory price than the dual tuners. Dual tuners are a nice helping of gravy to be sure but most early buyers of this TiVo are looking for digital cable and HD. That will up the price point TiVo will think they can get
     
  2. ChuckyBox

    ChuckyBox New Member

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    Hmm, seems like a tough call. Even the analog users will get a crack at OTA digital/HD, which expands in value when you have dual tuners, so there are side benefits all over the place with this box. For me, it is the combination of digital cable, OTA HD, and dual tuners that makes the package so very attractive. The expandable storage is a nice dollop of icing on the cake. And then there are all the TiVo service features (announced and unannounced) to throw into the mix...

    Damn, all this talk makes me want one all the more. It's like looking at porn. :eek:
     
  3. IrishTiVo

    IrishTiVo A good egg :)

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    THIS is what I've been waiting for. I want HDTV, but have held off for a 1080p DLP and an HDTiVo. Seems my wish list is no longer a wishlist! Once the early adopter dust settles, I'm ALL OVER one of these.
     
  4. webjunkie

    webjunkie New Member

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    any thoughts on when the sweet new series 3 will be available to pre-order
     
  5. jautor

    jautor Also wants a pony

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    I heard 2nd hand (didn't occur to me to ask them at CES) that there will be a "non HD" model of the series 3, which would essentiall be a dual tuner Series2... Don't know if this was supposed to come out at the same time, or sometime later. Either way, don't expect that box to be 'cheap' like the single tuner boxes.

    Jeff
     
  6. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    I don't know about that - with the coming requirement to have ATSC tuners in any box with NTSC, it'd be hard to do a Series3 with no HD.
     
  7. TheNumberSix

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    I really just don't understand what the delay is.

    TiVo has been working on this forever. Didn't we see some early prototypes at CES in January 2005? And I bet we won't see a box shipping until Q3.

    My only wish is that they would include a DVD player. Then I could replace both my Cox boxen and my SD-H400 and have only one box in my entire entertainment center. I'd love that.
     
  8. jautor

    jautor Also wants a pony

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    That's a good point. Are those requirements clearly written enough that we know that a DVR is covered? As opposed to a 'display device'? The quotes I've seen say "TV source devices" that contain tuners, so it does appear that way.

    Now, maybe this 'rumor' depends on the timing of the release of Series 3. The ATSC date is 3/1/07. If Series 3 came out in 2Q - that's enough time to sell a de-populated NTSC dual tuner box, since you've got 9 months, and a whole xmas season... If series 3 doesn't appear until the fall, then it's probably too late...
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'd love to see one with a built in HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player. However give the price of the respective technologies it'll probably be a couple of years before a combo box like that is economical to produce.

    Dan
     
  10. pinkfloyd01

    pinkfloyd01 New Member

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    I just want to mirror azvenigo's original comments and say I will be an early adopter no matter the cost and can't wait to throw my steaming pile of **** Motorola dual tuner HD Comcast box out the window! Please let that day be tomorrow! We have 2 of the Motorola boxes and 1 has been replaced 4 times in less than a year and it is starting to pixelate and miss recording programs again! I don't believe the Tivo software upgrade will help but I may be wrong.

    <rantoff>
     
  11. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    I plan on waiting. I Already have two Series 2 boxes that work fine with my current provider and configuration. Before I make plans to upgrade I'll make certain that a)S3's play nice with S2's, b)they are affordable, c)they play nice with all the cool third party apps (Galleon, etc.) and d)there's an upgrade path similar to the S2's as far as increasing capacity is concerned.

    Before any of that I plan to get an HDTV, the bigger the better....but the wife insists on a Fridge first. <sigh> Maybe I can talk her into one with a built-in HDTV! LOL!
     
  12. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    the upgrade path is the external hard drive connector. :up:

    there are LCD screens in some fridges at best buy :D
     
  13. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    The wait and see there (in addition to internal expansion) is;

    • Must we buy a prepared drive from TiVo (either the online or a B&M store)?
    • Will aftermarket drives (from Weeknees et al) be available?
    • Will resources be made available to DIY your own drives?
     
  14. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    This is really what I was talking about for the upgrade path. External drives are nice, but they tend to be more expensive than internal drives. I like the TiVo's current hackability and hope it stays that way with the S3's.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    With the size of the unit, and the hardware inside, it may not have physical space for another internal hard drive. (like the DVD units) If that's the case then the external drive will be your only option. As for cost of external drives... eSATA enclosure are actually cheaper then USB and FireWire because they don't need any logic chips to convert from one protocol to the other. All they need is something to hold the drive, feed it power and passthrough the native SATA connection. So as long as the hacker community can figure out how to "bless" an external drive to work with a TiVo, it shouldn't be much more expensive then installing a drive right in the TiVo.

    Dan
     
  16. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    But are they HD? ;)
     
  17. tenthplanet

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    This is incorrect. According to sources at the show you should be able to transfer anything to, or from, a S2 unit except HD content. And that's only because the S2 units are incapable of actually playing HD content due to hardware limitations.

    Dan[/QUOTE]

    You would hope the S3 could convert a file to make a down-rezed version that could be transferred to an S2 and played. Otherwise we will have to buy two S3s.
     
  18. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    It won't do that. Yes, you'd need two S3s to use MRV for HD content.
     
  19. jacksonian

    jacksonian New Member

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    I can't wait for this. I'll buy 2 for sure, maybe 3 if they're reasonable!
     
  20. 72morgan

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    I want my HD TiVo. I have the money and I'm not afraid to use it."

    I agree wholeheartedly!!!!

    I have the Comcast Motorola HD unit and it sucks , I am on my 3rd one and it still does not work correctly. The TV Guide is wrong , I can not record some HD shows. It is just awful. I hope Comcast does not " help " TIVO with their unit.

    Hands off Comcast!! TIVO knows how to make a DVR and we know how to use it !!!

    I believe I saw somewheres that the series 3 unit will have 6 tuners. 2 HD , 2 analog and 2 cable.......
     

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