TIVO Series 3 lite vs Today's TIVO S3

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    dtsfanohio

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    Ok.. need expert advice... Tivo has announced a TIVO S3 lite for the Fall 2007, cheaper, etc.

    Does anyone have an idea what this unit will be like vs the current one?

    Better to wait for this unit vs the $200 rebate deal?

    Thanks
     
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    jrm01

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    As far as I know there has not been an official anouncement, nor an official release date. However, it has been mentioned in many analyst's meetings by TIVO officials.

    It will have to be differentiated in some way. Maybe only one tuner. Maybe a smaller HD.

    IMHO the current S3 is already configured on the light side and I don't think I'd be happy with anything lighter.

    Chances are you'd only save $100 - $150 over the current offer for the S3.

    Go for it! You'll enjoy the current product for six months while you'd otherwise be just waiting for the unknown.
     
  3. May 31, 2007 #3 of 101
    PopcornGuy

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    Everyone keeps writing about how they could make the current S3 "lite".

    WHAT IF: The current unmodified version of the S3 becomes the "lite" version. The price is already coming down and by fall it could be in the talked about "lite" price range where a big group of consumers would jump in. How would they make the standard S3 BETTER?
    Bigger hard drive?
    Built-in wireless?
    What else? (no cracks about pixelation or cablecard issues, please)
     
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    jrm01

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    Good thought. I hope you're right.

    Other added features for the new "heavy" (other than the obvious, but problematic MRV and TTG):

    3 tuners
    QAM tuner guide support
    cablecard-M support
    1080p output
     
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    dtsfanohio

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    quarkman97

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    I wholeheartedly agree.

    I don't see Tivo S3 "lite" being cheaper than the current S3 price of $400 AR at amazon.

    I bet it'll be in the $300-$400 range at launch, have less features than the current one, and it'll take about a year or so to get it down to the $200-ish price range.

    I'm on the fence as well. I'd like to pull the trigger, but no MRV is a dealbreaker. Plus there isn't a ton of HD content on right now. Maybe in the Fall. The price can only get lower.

    I agree with the other poster that the current S3 was WAY too bloated. I think they wanted to make a statement, but if you take off the LED display, THX certification, you could cut the costs pretty easily.
     
  8. May 31, 2007 #8 of 101
    rodalpho

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    Right, I'm not entirely clear on what features they could actually remove from the S3 and still have it be worthwhile. The only thing I can think of would be reducing it to a single tuner and maybe a smaller hard drive... but 250GB drives are pretty darn cheap these days.
     
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    davezatz

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    That's a sensible idea, but it's not what's happening.
     
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    supasta

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    Anyone want to bet on whether or not the "Lite" version will have MRV?
     
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    TexasAg

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    If it doesn't use CableCards, you can bet it will.
     
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    dtsfanohio

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    whats MRV?
     
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    HiDefGator

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    No way it doesn't use cable cards but I would guess that OTA is gone. the low end guy gets all his hd via cable. Just my speculation.
     
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    davecramer74

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    my guess is it will be more on par with the cable dvr's. Dual tuner, 160gig drive, not thx certified, stuff like that. More of a generic one. My guess is it will sell for 199-249. The burning question is will cable labs get a standard out there for 2 way coms before tivo releases this. If not, is tivo going to upgrade these dvr's yearly? id be more inclined to spend 199 every year or 2 for some added features.
     
  15. May 31, 2007 #15 of 101
    moyekj

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    I hope this "Lite" unit can somehow fix or be equipped to deal with the SDV threat since that is one big obstacle for adoption by people in the know. If speculation is true that OTA support is removed then this makes it that much more vulnerable to SDV since there is no fallback to OTA to keep the unit useful should some/all your cable channels go away. I was willing to take the SDV risk on my S3 knowing that I could learn to live with OTA only should worst case SDV happen.
     
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    davecramer74

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    HiDefGator

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    I thought the M-cards just meant multistream (ie. two cards in one) that does not mean 2-way communication. They could at least put the hardware in the new S3 to handle upstream communications. That way they can add support if there ever is a standard for SDV.
     
  18. May 31, 2007 #18 of 101
    bkdtv

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    Correct.

    Existing CableCards already support 2-way communication. It is the receiver (and software) in the Series3 that does not.

    The primary benefit of MCARDs is that it eliminates the need for a second CableCard, so you get the full benefits of the Tivo Series3 with a single card.
     
  19. May 31, 2007 #19 of 101
    ewilts

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    My thoughts on standard vs. lite models:

    - new standard model to replace the current S3 will include built-in wireless and include a 500 to 750GB hard drive.

    - new lite model will have a single CableCARD slot (but still have dual tuners), no front-panel controls (but keep the recording displays), no THX, 250GB hard drive, no phone connection (Ethernet only) or USB-only with a choice of wired or wireless adapters like the S2), and drops the antenna input. It may have a reduced number of outputs - perhaps just component plus HDMI (and maybe not even HDMI) but no composite. It will have to keep the optical out for 5.1 so that has to stay. It may also be missing some software features like the Music, Photos and More stuff. No eSATA port.

    We'll see in 6 months how close I am...

    .../Ed
     
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    ah30k

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