TiVo Says People Want Ads

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  1. Sheffield Steve

    Sheffield Steve Member

    Jun 11, 2010


    "A survey of 4,526 adults in the U.S. and Canada published by TiVo today claims that a whopping 79% of the survey’s respondents reported wanting to use a free and ad-supported service rather than pay for another one. While 81% said they wished Prime Video and Netflix offered free tiers with ads, 80% of respondents reported a difference in the quality of the content on many free, ad-supported platforms—more specifically, that it’s worse."

    TiVo Says People Want Ads
  2. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

    May 13, 2007
    Durham, NC
    Sorry, but wanting a no out-of-pocket cost version of a paid service and using existing ad-supported services does not equal wanting ads.
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Anything I can't easily avoid Ads I just don't watch.
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  4. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    People are dumb.
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  5. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

    Sep 25, 2004


    They forgot to mention 80% of those polled worked for tivo...

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  6. Salacious Crumb

    Salacious Crumb Member

    Jan 1, 2019
    Pequannock, NJ
    Headlines misleading since xtra $$ is involved.
  7. Zephyr

    Zephyr Well-Known Member

    Sep 16, 2005
    Hey Tivo... flash ads at me and I'll flash "I'm OUT!" at you.... No more monthly fee. Simple.
  8. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    Yea well I am the other guy who will pay to get rid of ads. I just wont pay Tivo!
  9. snerd

    snerd Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2008
    I admit I *sometimes* want ads, during the Super Bowl, if they're hilarious. I might watch the game too if I like either of the teams.

    People want CONTROL. Let me watch what I want, how I want. That is what OG TiVo gave us. Play when I want, pause when I want, skip ahead/back how I want, save what I want, ignore what I want, and make it as easy as possible to do what I want.

    Every service that forces you to use their own "wonderful" interface is a bit of a tyrant. I pay for the content that I want to see, and maybe tolerate the rest of the crap that it comes mixed with. Let me access it however I want, and I'll be a customer. If people want ads so badly, then make it easy for them to access those ads without wading through the programs that surround them, and make it easy to skip ads for those who detest seeing the same boring ad over and over and over.

    Give me default ad options to watch each specific ad: never, once per day/week/month/year, or always. Give me the choice. That is what TiVo used to be all about.
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  10. wizwor

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013
    The TiVo cult has always attracted the ad averse. Most people don't mind. My TV viewing is mostly ad supported -- OTA, then Pluto, then the Roku Channel. Occasionally, I'll browse Prime. And I have a Plex server. And hundreds of discs. At the end of the day, I just turn on the TV, find something to watch, and go to bed. Doesn't really matter if it is Dolby or 4K or ...

    I do not care for edited programming. I like some skin and profanity.

    Clearly, I'm not alone. In fact, most people I know who have an antenna do not have any kind of set top box. They watch television as God intended. I think I'd be OK with that too. The Echo Show in my kitchen supports trick play via the Recast, but I seldom use it.
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  11. humbb

    humbb Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2014
    Northern CA
    In the survey they didn't seem to ask how many would be willing to make a single phone call to TiVo to opt-out of ads forever without any additional fees.
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  12. tommiet

    tommiet Active Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    Amazon offers discounts for customers willing to watch adds on some products they sell. Kindle's for example. But they also offer the same product for a few bucks more with no ads. I pay TiVo for guide data (and lately, that data really SUXS.) My expectations is no ads in my paid guide data. Guides with ads should be free or discounted.
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  13. MrDell

    MrDell Active Member

    Jul 8, 2012
    Rhode Island
    That is a very good point... if you want to insert adds you should dramatically reduce your guide service fees. For those of us that paid full price we should not have to deal with this nonsense!! I personally think that they stepped over the line with shoving the adds down our throats but in all fairness they do remove them if you make a phone call.
  14. bkc56

    bkc56 Designated Grunt

    Apr 29, 2001
    Santa Rosa,...
    I started time-shifting to skip ads in 1981 using a Betamax recorder. Migrated to VHS at some point. Migrated to Tivo in 2000 (lifetime sub). I think my position on ads is well established.
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  15. wizwor

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013
    This morning I stumbled across an old episode of The Price Is Right on BUZZR. The ads were integrated into the programming either as excellent descriptions and demonstrations of the prizes or as 'bonus' items. For instance, one contestant won, as a bonus, a trip to include every destination he could capture in a Polaroid picture. After he took the picture, the game continued. fifty seconds later, the amazing instant picture was shown as the audience learned what he won. One of the prizes was an Amana microwave oven. During the description, they cooked cupcakes and eggs in the oven. The audience applauded as the cupcakes rose and the host declared them hot and tasty.

    Interesting prizes and presentations. Compare to the current show where a model stands in front of a prize while a monotonous voice describes the covetous but not amazing car or luggage.
  16. JohnS-MI

    JohnS-MI Active Member

    Jan 25, 2014
    SE MI
    Dear Tivo: If people really wanted ads, you could offer them an option of having more or less (including zero) and they would pick the number that makes them optimally happy. I say that because the one word answer I am thinking would draw me a reprimand if typed here.

    This message is brought to you by the letter "B."
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    Same. I pay for the more expensive ad-free versions of all services that offer it and for any service that doesn’t I simply don’t watch.
  18. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

    Aug 2, 2003
    I think it's fair to say that the entire show is a series of ads -- in modern terms, "product placement" -- but they also have ad breaks, since as far back as I've seen it.
  19. NashGuy

    NashGuy Well-Known Member

    May 2, 2015
    Yes. One can get the sense from folks on this forum that the main attraction of a DVR is to avoid ads, as opposed to the ability to watch the content you want on-demand, on your own schedule. But consumer behavior clearly shows that the public is more interested in the latter than the former. Which is why YouTube has so many viewers, and why Hulu has more subscribers to its cheaper ad-supported tier than its more expensive ad-free version.

    That said, sure, there are still many who will pay extra in order to watch content not only on-demand but ad-free. Fine, we'll pay more for that privilege.
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  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    Most game shows back in the old days were just product placement ads. I remember watching Wheel of Fortune with my Grandma and after a round was over whoever won had to immediately "spend" their winnings on sponsored prizes.
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